Where do I start?

[bean]

firstly - thanks for all the help and pointers, much appreciated.

would John have listed his fathers name for the marriage if his father was dead?
I ask as I've scrolled through the 1901 returns and the most likely looking, to me anyway, is living with his mother who's listed as a widow.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000529396/


this is the marriage transcription I have:
UHF                           Civil Marriages                  472 30 102
District: CO DOWN, RC, 472, NEWRY,  .
Parish: NEWRY NO2 ROMAN CATHOLIC NEWRY & MOURNE  Reg: 14 Page: 76 Entry: 2
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Date: 30/01/1909
Husband Surname: TWOMEY                 Wife Surname: MCCANN
First Name: JOHN                        First Name: ELLEN
Husband Marital Status: BA              Wife Marital Status: SP
Husband Occupation: CARTER              Wife Occupation:
Husband Townland/Street:                Wife Townland/Street:
21 CORN MARKET NEWRY                    8 HYDE MARKET NEWRY
Husband Denomination: CP                Wife Denomination: CP
Husband Age: 38                         Wife Age: 32
Father Surname: TWOMEY                  Father Surname: MCCANN
First name: FRANCIS                     First name: JAMES
Father Occupation: LIVERYMAN            Father Occupation: LABOURER
Mother Surname:                         Mother Surname:
First name:                             First Name:
Witness Surname: CRAVEN                 Witness Surname: CRAVEN
First name: MARY A                      First Name: MARY A
Comment: MARRIED IN NEWRY BY ME J DOYLE ADM/ LIVING [SPSA FTHR].

[hallmark]

Yes a very good POSSIBLE!!

[hallmark]

So... http://www.rootschat.com/links/01h1r/  gets you all the John Twomeys who died in Cork between 1872 and 1901 on Civil Reg, of these 66 you can rule many out due to age as father would have been born 1840/50's most probably.

[myluck!]

firstly - thanks for all the help and pointers, much appreciated.

would John have listed his fathers name for the marriage if his father was dead?
I ask as I've scrolled through the 1901 returns and the most likely looking, to me anyway, is living with his mother who's listed as a widow.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000529396/

I don't believe that this is your John as he is still living in High Street with his Mother in 1911 LINK

[myluck!]

So... http://www.rootschat.com/links/01h1r/  gets you all the John Twomeys who died in Cork between 1872 and 1901 on Civil Reg, of these 66 you can rule many out due to age as father would have been born 1840/50's most probably.

hallmark - did you mean to look at death of men named Francis for the father? LINK
 

[myluck!]

There is a possibility that this is John as TOOMEY in 1901 in Co. Wicklow LINK
I love the occupation of another member of this household "explosive packer"!

or here in Dublin also as TOOMEY LINK although this name could be mis-transcribed and actually by TORMEY

[bean]

didn't think to check forward to 1911 with the John I'd found 

[hallmark]

So... http://www.rootschat.com/links/01h1r/  gets you all the John Twomeys who died in Cork between 1872 and 1901 on Civil Reg, of these 66 you can rule many out due to age as father would have been born 1840/50's most probably.

hallmark - did you mean to look at death of men named Francis for the father? LINK

It's not my day!!  :-))

[myluck!]

It's early hallmark - time to improve!!

bean - don't worry; ruling out is as important as in but can be time consuming!

Just a thought - have you seen the original of where his father's name is recorded?
It is not on the church records LINK but I have seen THOMAS mis-transcribed in the past as FRANCIS
Just in case you are working from a transcription - it may be something to consider