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Offline Lafrowda

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Madras Marriage
« on: Friday 12 February 16 23:30 GMT (UK) »
I have a James DAVINE / DEVINE born Madras circa 1825.  Son of John and an Emma.  Is there anyone with this family on their tree ? 

James married Mary Hogan in Barnsley in 1857 and gave Madras as his birthplace on the 1861 census also in Barnsley.
CORNWALL: Penrose, Trenerry & Variants, Warren, Barnicoat, l, Watters, Lavars, Eddy, Moyle, Hicks, Harvey, Tonkin.
N.YORKS;DURHAM:  Robinson, Thwaites, Frank, Rigg, Woodwark,Moon,Metcalfe.
NORFOLK: Wales, Bocking,Pond,Basham,Wegg,Bastard.
DORSET: Norster/Nosciter, Byat, Stoodleigh,Sweet.

VARIOUS: Hefferan & variants, Devine & variants

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Re: Madras Marriage
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 13 February 16 00:07 GMT (UK) »
Watching this thread with interest.

Have you had a look at fbis website.

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Re: Madras Marriage
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 13 February 16 00:12 GMT (UK) »
I hope this man is NOT your Person. But some of the details match up and bearing in mind I do not think there were any coal mines near where he was in 1891 which means he must have come from somewhere else which did have them.

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Re: Madras Marriage
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 13 February 16 05:21 GMT (UK) »
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there were any coal mines near where he was in 1891

That 1891 census entry is for Dartmoor prison
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Re: Madras Marriage
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 13 February 16 05:35 GMT (UK) »
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Is there anyone with this family on their tree ? 

There are 8 public trees for this family on Ancestry

Related thread on Wiganworld http://goo.gl/435b5O
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Re: Madras Marriage
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 13 February 16 05:48 GMT (UK) »
The miner in Dartmoor in 1891 was serving a 7 year sentence of penal servitude for a serious offence against a 12 year old girl in Wath upon Dearne in 1886. Convicted 8/11/86, released 26/4/1892.
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Re: Madras Marriage
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 13 February 16 13:42 GMT (UK) »
The info. on here has been of great help thank you.
Mary DEVINE age 22 married John HEFFREN at St Josephs RC Chapel on 21 May 1884.  She is my wife's Great Grandmother.  There is no record of Thomas Ernest living with them (Mary's illigitimate son).
I do not have her father James prison history except the 1891 census Dartmoor location. What happened to him following release is unknown. Mary had her mother Mary (HOGAN) living with her in Darwen, Lancs in 1901.
Death & Burials unknown.

On my database there are records for birth & baptism of a John DIVINE son of James & Amelia in 1826, Vipery, Madras Presidency, India.  James is an Apothacary.

The only James baptism I have found is 25 Aug 1822, St Wilfrid RC, York, son of John & Anne (IGI)
CORNWALL: Penrose, Trenerry & Variants, Warren, Barnicoat, l, Watters, Lavars, Eddy, Moyle, Hicks, Harvey, Tonkin.
N.YORKS;DURHAM:  Robinson, Thwaites, Frank, Rigg, Woodwark,Moon,Metcalfe.
NORFOLK: Wales, Bocking,Pond,Basham,Wegg,Bastard.
DORSET: Norster/Nosciter, Byat, Stoodleigh,Sweet.

VARIOUS: Hefferan & variants, Devine & variants

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Re: Madras Marriage
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 13 February 16 14:07 GMT (UK) »
This one died;
JOHN Devine birth 1826
burial:
26 December 1843
Madras, India
Parents JAMES/AMELIA Devine

Do you have the 1857 Marriage Cert?
What is his Fathers Occupation?
Witnesses names?

Trish :)

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Re: Madras Marriage
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 13 February 16 18:00 GMT (UK) »
Both her & his father are coal miners.

Writing on the cert. is hard to read. Witnesses are NOT Devine or Heffrin.  Looks like James Myles & Susannah  Busnan or Rusman.
CORNWALL: Penrose, Trenerry & Variants, Warren, Barnicoat, l, Watters, Lavars, Eddy, Moyle, Hicks, Harvey, Tonkin.
N.YORKS;DURHAM:  Robinson, Thwaites, Frank, Rigg, Woodwark,Moon,Metcalfe.
NORFOLK: Wales, Bocking,Pond,Basham,Wegg,Bastard.
DORSET: Norster/Nosciter, Byat, Stoodleigh,Sweet.

VARIOUS: Hefferan & variants, Devine & variants