Brown(e)

[KennyBrown.NI]

Hi Guys,

I have struck a dead end in the male lineage of my family due to a common family name. I really hope someone can help

My Great Great Grandfather George Brown married his wife Mary Duncan on 18 Dec 1884
at Belfast City Hall. I have located lots of info about Mary's side of the family but very little about George's parents/siblings.

On the marriage record George's father was listed as George Browne whose occupation was a butler. A person in service would move a lot so I cannot track him down.

My Great Great Grandfather George Brown was also in service and was a gardener. He moved a lot. His place of birth on the Census info shows his birth place as Newry, Co Down.

His age stated at marriage in 1884 is 22 so est DOB would be: 1862

His age on the 1901 Census is 36 so est DOB would be: 1865
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Carrickfergus_Rural/West_Division/992012/

His age on the 1911 Census is 46 so est DOB would be: 1865
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Carrickfergus/West_Division/190014/

He died on the 9th of October 1937 -Aged 73 at time of Death in Larne District Hospital. Cause of Death: Chronic Eucbcaiditis, Cardiac Failure Certified by Dr I.P. Adair.
Burial place:Dundonald Cemetery. F5 629
So Est DOB would be: 1864

Can anyone help me locate more information on exact DOB or info on his father (Sr) George Brown(e) and/or his mother/ if any siblings.

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Thanks
Kenny

[aghadowey]

You already had a thread looking for birth certificate of George Brown and it was explained that civil registration of births started in 1864 and if you can't find him in civil registration index then there's no birth certificate.

He was Church of Ireland and supposed to be born in Newry- have you searched church records for a baptism yet?

Next thing is to check for George Brown, butler in 1901 and 1911. One possibility here-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Londonderry_Urban_No__1/Creggan_Road/1530609

It's possible, of course, that George the butler was 1) dead before 1901, 2) not living in Ireland, 3) listed with a different occupation in 1901/1911

[KennyBrown.NI]

Thanks Aghadowey. Can a search church records online?

[BallyaltikilliganG]

Your George Browne  bbb1849 dxxx  occupation Butler
I checked Belfast street directory 1884 online at PRONI, until I was dizzy without success. elsewhere I found a George Brown lived at No 1 Cecil st Newry see Newry householders, British Parliamentary Papers/ http://www.bagenalscastle.com/ancestry
children
George Brown [so bbb 1861-5Newry] described as servant but not as a live in!!
‘His age stated at marriage in 1884 is 22 so est DOB would be: 1862’ I think 1861 possible so his birth might be one of these entries where the father is named
http://www.ancestryireland.com/ buy credits or try familysearch,emeraldancestors etc
George      Brown   1859   George   Antrim   
George Clarke   Brown   1859   George Clarke   Antrim
George      Browne   1861   George   Antrim   
George Charles   Brown   1864   Thomas George   
George      Brown   1865   George   Antrim   
George      Brown   1865   George   no county   
 
Following your census references
In 1901 census, He lives in Plot 47 this could as an non live-in servant to Dr John Frederick Wales medical practitioner Plot 48 next door has a Domestic Servant.
In 1911 census, he lives at Plot No 100, his neighbour at 101 the McKaigs the father and son are carriers have two servants including a 22 year old Harriett Brown as a servant.  Is Harriett connected? A birth entry with father named for 1887 gives
HARRIET   BROWN   1887   GEORGE from http://www.ancestryireland.com

church records eg newry from PRONI Belfast, I advise checking Ros Davies listing as she add sin other sources eg familysearch may have copied. etc
NEWRY, COS DOWN AND ARMAGH
C.I. Newry (formerly St Patrick’s and then St Mary’s)
(Dromore diocese)
Baptisms, 1804-14, 1817, 1819 and 1822-94;
marriages 1784-1963; burials, 1824-76; index to
baptisms, marriages and burials, 1784-c.1910; vestry
minutes, 1775-1948; select vestry minutes, 1877-1909;
registers of vestrymen, 1870-1935; preachers’ books,
1878-1957; registers of pews occupied, 1886-1926,
and of subscribers, 1886-1959. MIC1/46-48; D2034
C.I. St Patrick’s (Dromore diocese)
[Restored as a chapel of ease and became a separate
parish in 1870]
Baptisms, 1847-1926; burials, 1862-1919.
[For marriages, see above] MIC1/120; D2034
Keep going, Good luck, sanssouci