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Joseph Clarke burials
« on: Monday 15 February 16 11:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I'm having some real problems with my Clarke ancestors. My ancestor Joseph Ann Clark b 1832 and her sister Salome Asenath b.1830 had parents called Joseph Clark and Ann King (I think based on the fact they married in 1829). In 1841 Ann is a widow. There were two Joseph Clark deaths registered in 1837 and I contacted the registry office saying could they check whether Ann may have registered one of the deaths. I gave them all the details including Joseph's occupation (Sawyer) and they said that neither entry matched the information I gave them. I'm not sure what to do next...does anyone know if there are any other burials between 1830 and 1837 listed? Should I apply for these certificates and is there any point? Can I view death certificate entries at the archives?
Swift , Matthews, Price , Clarke , Rockley, Dewey, Turton, Wild, Nottingham
Aldread, Brentnall, Cowlishaw Derbyshire
Elliot, The Borders/Nottingham FWK industry
Hartopp, NW Leicester (Barkby and surrounds).
Smith Bilston Staffordshire
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Re: Joseph Clarke burials
« Reply #1 on: Monday 15 February 16 11:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi Burto

Salome's baptism took place at St Mary's Nottingham and there is an entry on the NBI for a death for a Joseph Clarke aged 41 on 21/02/1837 also at St Mary's. I wonder if it might be worth having at look at St Mary's records for his death?

The 1841 census with Ann, Salom(a) and Ann has the family in St Mary's Nottingham.
GOATER, LAN, ALL
BOURKE, MAYO/ LAN
LONERGAN, TIP
McGREAL, MAYO
FLAHERTY, GALWAY/ ALL
HOUGH, LAN/ ALL

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Re: Joseph Clarke burials
« Reply #2 on: Monday 15 February 16 11:40 GMT (UK) »
Post edited coz i was talking nonsense!!

Here's details of the 1837 burials at Nott St Mary

1837 02 21   Joseph   CLARKE   age 41   Clare St   Nottingham St Mary      

1837 12 26   Joseph   CLARKE   age 33   Garners Hill   Nottingham St Mary      

Does either of those ages or addresses look possible?
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
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Re: Joseph Clarke burials
« Reply #3 on: Monday 15 February 16 12:10 GMT (UK) »
Thanks both. Ok I enquired about the Dec 1837 one, sorry just realised they wouldn't have given me any info for the Feb one as there wouldn't have been a certificate!
Maybe it is the Clare Street one...would the records at the archives tell me anything or just what has been quoted here?
Swift , Matthews, Price , Clarke , Rockley, Dewey, Turton, Wild, Nottingham
Aldread, Brentnall, Cowlishaw Derbyshire
Elliot, The Borders/Nottingham FWK industry
Hartopp, NW Leicester (Barkby and surrounds).
Smith Bilston Staffordshire
Bennett, Calary? Ireland
Johnson, Staffordshire/Warwickshire
Latham, Lewis, Trevor, Vero, Armstrong, Barnett


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Re: Joseph Clarke burials
« Reply #4 on: Monday 15 February 16 12:26 GMT (UK) »
I think the transcribers of the CD have included the info that is available to them in the burial records in which case you won't get more from the church register.

However, the death certificate (which you could get for the December burial) will show Joseph's occupation and the name of the informant, which might be helpful.
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Joseph Clarke burials
« Reply #5 on: Monday 15 February 16 15:10 GMT (UK) »
 "In 1841 Ann is a widow."
How do you know she was a widow? Just because there was no husband present on the 1841 does not mean he was dead.

The baptism of Salome says her father was a Lawyer  ??? Easy to mix up an old "S" and a "L" How do you know he was a sawyer?
AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
Paternal Line--An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing.Wink. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
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Re: Joseph Clarke burials
« Reply #6 on: Monday 15 February 16 15:32 GMT (UK) »
AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
Paternal Line--An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing.Wink. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
Husbands-Beckett. Heald. Pilkington. Arnold. Hall. Willows. Dring. Newcomb. Hawley

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Re: Joseph Clarke burials
« Reply #7 on: Monday 15 February 16 17:05 GMT (UK) »
grrr ---

but taking a different tack --

the newspapers are now online. If Joseph Clarke was a lawyer, I would expect him to appear in the local papers in one form or another.

I've found a Joseph Clarke, Sawyer, who died age 54 in Nottingham in Sept 1832. This Joseph, sawyer, was uncle to Mr Isiaih Clarke, surgeon dentist, of the Pavement, Notts.

I can't see any mentions of any lawyers (or solicitors etc) called Joseph Clarke in Notts.
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Joseph Clarke burials
« Reply #8 on: Monday 15 February 16 17:21 GMT (UK) »
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=293199.9

ALL been done before...........

I hope this hasn't annoyed people, that wasn't my intention, I just need some ideas as I'm stuck.
Swift , Matthews, Price , Clarke , Rockley, Dewey, Turton, Wild, Nottingham
Aldread, Brentnall, Cowlishaw Derbyshire
Elliot, The Borders/Nottingham FWK industry
Hartopp, NW Leicester (Barkby and surrounds).
Smith Bilston Staffordshire
Bennett, Calary? Ireland
Johnson, Staffordshire/Warwickshire
Latham, Lewis, Trevor, Vero, Armstrong, Barnett