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Edward Richard Hallis b1872 ;any children in SA
« on: Saturday 20 February 16 01:06 GMT (UK) »
 Edward Hallis was a blacksmith in GB (his father samuel "adopted" my nana in 1900)
Edward Married Lillian Alice Hird in Liverpool in 1897


Edward died in SA in 1942

I see from ship records that he travelled to and from africa
He seems to have come from SA to GB in the  to visit his sister in  Greenfield street Birkenhead
in 1932 1935 and 1939

first evidence i found of him going to SA was 1912

his wife was with her father Thomas Hird in 1901 and I can't find Edward

there is a Mrs L Hallis  housekeeper aged 26 travelling from Liverpool to Cape in 1902
could this be to join her husband there

Is there any evidence of Edward having children in SA ..is he on any censuses
 and did he have any children
 with Lillian or anyone else

in 1939  aged 67 he travelled from Mozambique
to  GB (Ashdale  road)

Will be grateful for any pointers
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Re: Edward Richard Hallis b1872 ;any children in SA
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 20 February 16 01:29 GMT (UK) »
 Details I have so far on Edward Hallis
1872 Birth confirmed to Cheshirebmd (Hallis).
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1881 Census age 9 at 118 Oliver Road, Birkenhead. with parents, (transcribed as E R Wallace)
 1891 Census age 19 single at 138 Borough Road, B'head with parents, (Hallis) blacksmith.

 1897 Marriage Cert obtained age 25 bachelor at 38 Bright St, Birkenhead - Whitesmith. Wit:- John Brown, Edith Hird & Blanche Thornely Roberts.

 1912 21st June - Arrival on Ship 'Dover Castle' to London from Delagoa Bay, Mozambique age 40 - Railway Official. Country of last permanent residence - Union of South Africa.

 1927 26 May - Arrival on Ship 'Llanstephan Castle' to London from Durban, South Africa age 55 at 3 Greenfield St, Birkenhead - Railway Official.

 1932 18th April - Arrival on Ship 'Carnarvon Castle' to Southampton from Durban, South Africa age 60 at 3 Greenfield St, Birkenhead - Railway Pensioner.

 1935 29th April - Arrival on Ship 'Llandaff Castle' to Southampton from Mombasa, Kenya age 63 at 3 Greenfield St, Birkenhead - Retired.

 1936 18th May - Arrival on Ship 'Winchester Castle' to Southampton from Durban, South Africa age 64 at 3 Greenfield St, Birkenhead.

 1939 5th July - Arrival on Ship 'Pretoria Castle' to Southampton from Beira, Mozambique age 67 at 19 Ashdale Road, Liverpool - Railway Official.

  sister Martha Harriet Evans lived at 3 Greenfield st ; but I don't know who lived at 19 ashdale Road
I.ve not seen these ship documents information given to me
 
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Re: Edward Richard Hallis b1872 ;any children in SA
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 20 February 16 16:41 GMT (UK) »

    Apparently there is evidence that his Brother George Samuel Fellman also went to SA

it would be after 1901 when he was with wife Mary E Fellman nee Long and daughter
Rosie A aged 2

I haven't found them on any boats yet

There is   a link to Familysearch  page on
English forum  but I cant open it because my computer browser is not compatible with that site



 
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Re: Edward Richard Hallis b1872 ;any children in SA
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 21 February 16 09:02 GMT (UK) »
found
Mrs L Hallis 1902 taking ship from Liverpool to cape    south africa Housekeeper aged 26

now just got to find out if she + Edward had any children

and her death date
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Re: Edward Richard Hallis b1872 ;any children in SA
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 21 February 16 14:22 GMT (UK) »
Don't know if you have this Edward's Death Notice

DEPOT     TAB                                                                   
SOURCE    MHG                                                                   
TYPE      LEER                                                                 
VOLUME_NO 0                                                                     
SYSTEM    01                                                                   
REFERENCE 3473/42                                                               
PART      1                                                                     
DESCRIPTION          HALLIS, EDWARD RICHARD.                                               
STARTING  19420000                                                             
ENDING    19420000                                                             
REMARKS   PREDECEASED SPOUSE LILIAN HALLIS (BORN HIRD).

Will see if I can find estate file.............
Paylet, Pallatt, Morris (Russia, UK) Burke, Hillery, Page, Rumsey, Stevens, Tyne/Thynne(UK)  Landman, van Rooyen, Tyne, Stevens, Rumsey, Visagie, Nell (South Africa)

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Re: Edward Richard Hallis b1872 ;any children in SA
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 21 February 16 14:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I have Death Notice and his will, there are 3 children.  PM me your email and I'll send you the copies.

Lilian died in 1938

DEPOT     TAB                                                                   
SOURCE    MHG                                                                   
TYPE      LEER                                                                 
VOLUME_NO 0                                                                     
SYSTEM    01                                                                   
REFERENCE 3005/38                                                               
PART      1                                                                     
DESCRIPTION          HALLIS, LILLIAN. BORN HIRD.                                           
STARTING  19380000                                                             
ENDING    19380000                                                             
REMARKS   SURVIVING SPOUSE EDWARD HALLIS.     

She died on the 27th August 1938 at the Entabeni Nursing Home in Durban

copy and post the link on here and we can try and open it..
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Re: Edward Richard Hallis b1872 ;any children in SA
« Reply #6 on: Monday 22 February 16 09:59 GMT (UK) »
I have found a Mary "Hallis" nee Long with previous deceased spouse George Samuel "Hallis", could they be your Fellmans?
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Re: Edward Richard Hallis b1872 ;any children in SA
« Reply #7 on: Monday 22 February 16 20:06 GMT (UK) »
yes they  George s + mary a nee long
They had a daughter Rose = went over on 1902 boatsare on a cheshire forum ;under long i'll have to learn to copy + add the link

george retired to birkenhea  In 1930's and die died in Birkenhead
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Re: Edward Richard Hallis b1872 ;any children in SA
« Reply #8 on: Monday 10 September 18 12:17 BST (UK) »
Edward hallis Death notice from Pretoria 1st aug1940 amended to 1942

Wife predeceased him Aug 1938

Children
 Leslie HALLIS b.4/9/1906
Frank Edward HALLIS b 30/10/1912
Joan Hilliard Hallis  1918


PS in an earlier post I accidentally  put George Fellman the birth father when I meant George Hallis the adoptive brother ...sorry .just Hallis family in south Africa
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