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Thomas BOWEN 1782
« on: Thursday 03 March 16 16:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi..

I am confused re my 4th G Grandfather THOMAS BOWEN 1782 - 1861 Born in Bromyard, Herefordshire. I have found a  marriage to SARAH DERRY 1778 - on 13th June 1814. This same Sarah is documented on the census for 1841 as Thomas Bowen's wife.

However, in the 1851 census, Sarah's birth year is given as 1818  :) There is a 10 month old infant listed on this census.

I assume that Sarah DERRY passed away between the census years and Thomas remarried. I have found a marriage for Thomas and SARAH BAKER 12th Feb 1850.

My problem is that I cannot find a death for Sarah DERRY!  ???

Thank you in anticipation!! ;D

Ruth

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Re: Thomas BOWEN 1782
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 March 16 17:03 GMT (UK) »
SARAH DERRY  Birth
1779 • Linton, Herefordshire, England

1779


Marriage
1814 • Tarrington, Hereford, England
Thomas Bowen



1814


Birth of Son William Bowen(1823–1890)
1823 • Linton, Herefordshire, England




Residence
1841 • Bromyard, Herefordshire, England




Death of Husband Thomas Bowen(1782–1847)
April 1847 • Bromyard, Herefordshire

1847


Residence
1861 • Linton, Herefordshire, England

Relation to Head of House: Son

1861


Death
April 1866 • Bromyard, Herefordshire
Name:    Sarah Bowen
Estimated Birth Year:    abt 1778
Registration Year:    1866
Registration Quarter:    Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death:    88
Registration district:    Bromyard
 District
Inferred County:    Herefordshire
Volume:    6a
Page:    373

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Re: Thomas BOWEN 1782
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 March 16 17:52 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Doran,

I have clearly branched off the wrong direction haven't I!!? :-[

I'll give it another look...
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Re: Thomas BOWEN 1782
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 03 March 16 18:02 GMT (UK) »
you may have  that can be the trouble have another look at it see what you think :)


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Re: Thomas BOWEN 1782
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 08 March 16 18:51 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

In case you haven't found her yet, I think this is Sarah in 1851, transcribed at Ancestry as BAWIEC ::)


1851  HO107/1980  f.374  p.18 Linton
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Sarah BOWIN    Head    Widow    74    Carptr Widow    Herefor Linton     


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Re: Thomas BOWEN 1782
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 March 16 19:07 GMT (UK) »
Oh many thanks Daisy... I'll give her a look  :D


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Re: Thomas BOWEN 1782
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 March 16 21:27 GMT (UK) »
Still confused... ???

I note that Thomas married Sarah DERRY in 1814: however I believe that this may have his second marriage as I have 4 daughters whose births are registered from 1805 to 1809 respectively...

CHARLOTTE 1805 - 1810
SARAH 1806 -
MARY ANNE 1808 -
SUSANNAH 1809 -
CHARLOTTE 1811 - 1872

The later 4 children are registered from 1816 to 1824  :P

Can you see why I'm thinking that this may be from a second marriage...unless the 4 older children were born out of wedlock.. :-\   

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Re: Thomas BOWEN 1782
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 10 March 16 17:25 GMT (UK) »

I wonder which Sarah this child belongs to?


Thomas BOWEN
Baptism Date:  17 Feb 1814
Bromyard
Father:  Thomas BOWEN   
Mother:  Sarah 

It could be the first Sarah's, then she died and he had a quick marriage on 14th June 1814 to Sarah DERRY? or Thomas was only marries to one Sarah in an earlier marriage yet to be found :-\


If this the 1814 marriage that you refer to, are you sure that he is 'your' Thomas?

13 Jun 1814
Tarrington  Herefordshire 
Thomas BOWEN
Sarah DERRY
 


I ask because on the 1851 census I can see this different couple,

1851  HO107/1982  f.13  p.18  Wigmore  Herefordshire
Wigmore Village

BOWEN
Thomas    Head    59    Farmer 266 acres employing 1? Lab    Shropshire Ludlow
Sarah        Wife    59                                                                   Herefordshire  Stock Lacy
John           Son     38    Farmer's son                                              "  "        Wigmore
Sarah         Dau    23    Farmer's Daur                                             "  "            "  "
Ann            Dau    20        "  "     "  "                                                  "  "            "  "
Susan BLUCK        Serv    26    House Serv          Shropshire  Bishops Castle     
James WILLIAMS  Serv    20    Farm Lab              Herefordshire Aymestrey?

 
Stoke Lacy is only about 9 miles from Tarrington, and Linton is only about 13 miles away, so which couple belongs to this marriage :-\




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Re: Thomas BOWEN 1782
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 12 March 16 17:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi...

Yes this is the marriage that I refer to in Tarrington in 1814. I still have not found another marriage for Thomas. ??? So I will have a peek at this other family. Everyone on Ancestry seems to follow the same line, however, I have been caught out like that before!!! ::)

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