Author Topic: French marriage between James Crosgrove and Elizabeth Caird on the 04/12/1852  (Read 1798 times)

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Hi everyone,
Could anybody point me in the right direction to find a marriage registration in Brest Finistere
The marriage was between James Crosgrove and Elizabeth Caird on the 04/12/1852
Knowledge of French non existant
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Re: French marriage
« Reply #1 on: Friday 04 March 16 15:59 GMT (UK) »
They are both English names....might James have been in the military? Have you looked for army marriages? Where does your information come from - it is very specific? Possibly a Scottish birth certificate?
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: French marriage
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 March 16 16:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi josey
Not sure where the specifics came from
Not sure if James was in the military
Elizabeth was born Blairgowrie Scotland, James possibly Scotland as well maybe Ireland
Elizabeth's father worked in Saint Germain-de- Livet as Flax Dresser
James and Elizabeth's daughter Euphemia born in 1858 in Blairgowrie

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Re: French marriage
« Reply #3 on: Friday 04 March 16 16:56 GMT (UK) »
Do you have Euphemia's birth certificate? It may state the church her parents married at.

Have you tried here?
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1636101
Finistere church records 1772 - 1894, free to browse.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON


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Re: French marriage
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 March 16 17:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi josey,
On Euphemia's birth cert. she was born24/02/1858 at Mill Street Blairgowrie
No mention where her mother and father were married but it states James Crosgrove father was a Flax Dresser, so I think that would rule out a military wedding

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Re: French marriage
« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 March 16 18:20 GMT (UK) »
OK, I don't know when parents' marriage started being on Scottish birth certificates. Do you know whether they were RC or protestant? I suspect the familysearch records are RC. What church was Euphemia baptised at?
This will be a brother Thomas I presume:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYBZ-LX5

Not sure where the specifics came from

You must have got the data from somewhere, sometime in the past  ???. Perhaps from an online tree - then look for it again & contact the owner? Perhaps a family member/contact - then ask them again to find what their source was? Or perhaps like many of us starting out in genealogy, the source was not written in the notes you have made for the couple  :(.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: French marriage
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 March 16 19:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi josey,
Yes that Thomas is the brother of Euphemia b. 12/021864 Dundee
On his birth cert it states parents married 04/12/1852 in France.
I would assume everyone was Protestant.
I was contacted from someone who said they got the marriage from find my past that it was in vol. 1 page 187 what records they are referring to I don't know

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Re: French marriage
« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 March 16 20:28 GMT (UK) »
The marriage is indexed in the GRO Consular Marriages.

1849-1854
James COSGROVE
Elizabeth CAIRD
Brest vol 1 page 199 (not 187).

You can't see the marriage record online. You have to purchase a copy of the civil certificate. This can be done online from the GRO, using their order form called Marriage Certificate (Overseas Events) and entering the above index reference data. Cost £9.25 including worldwide postage.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

(FindMyPast have mis-indexed James as COSGRAVE, but you must enter the name as COSGROVE because that is the spelling shown on the image of the GRO index page.)

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Re: French marriage
« Reply #8 on: Friday 04 March 16 21:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bookbox,

Thanks very much for the information you gave
I have ordered the certificate from gro.gov
Also thanks to josey as well
Your time and help is very much appreciated

Thanks again
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