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Re: John Murtagh 1880 Westmeath
« Reply #9 on: Monday 07 March 16 16:21 GMT (UK) »
It's just if we could find a Kathleen Murtagh with mother Daly in the birth index we would know we were looking at the correct couple, than you could get their marriage cert.
What occupation if any is given for the father on the marriage cert you have or does it just say deceased.

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Re: John Murtagh 1880 Westmeath
« Reply #10 on: Monday 07 March 16 17:54 GMT (UK) »
It says he's a labourer

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Re: John Murtagh 1880 Westmeath
« Reply #11 on: Monday 07 March 16 18:54 GMT (UK) »
Just reading over your first thread.
You only had Kathleen and her husband to start with and knew they died young and their children went into an orphanage.
Now you know from the marriage cert that Kathleen's father was John a labourer.

How do you know that is the correct family in the 1911 Census?
I'm saying your wrong just wondering if they is something I missed.

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Re: John Murtagh 1880 Westmeath
« Reply #12 on: Monday 07 March 16 19:59 GMT (UK) »
Because I remembered my mum mentioning living in Maxwell Street with her mum and dad, Kathleen and John Watters, and her grandparents living on the same street, this info is on the database.dublincity.ie. I then found their marriege cert which has the fathers names as John Murtagh Labourer and William Watters Gas Fitter

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Re: John Murtagh 1880 Westmeath
« Reply #13 on: Monday 07 March 16 22:04 GMT (UK) »
The census does seem to fit, and there are no Murtaghs on Maxwell Street in 1911 so they must have moved there by 1915 as John is there on the 1908 - 1915 voters list.

But than I confused my self. I went back through the voters list to check the year on the front of the book John appears in and the date is 1909.
So I search the voters list by year and compared it with the Census and John is in one but not the other.
Head melt.
Not sure if both these links will work.
Voters list 1911
http://databases.dublincity.ie/burgesses/search_new.php?searchtype=street&year=1911&address01=MAXWELL%20STREET
Census 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000159047/

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Re: John Murtagh 1880 Westmeath
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 08 March 16 09:58 GMT (UK) »
Christopher Murtagh could this be Owen that appears with them on register of electors
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/2378fb0301960

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FB5R-Z68

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Re: John Murtagh 1880 Westmeath
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 08 March 16 12:25 GMT (UK) »
Could be I've been going mad looking for Owen, how did you find him ?

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Re: John Murtagh 1880 Westmeath
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 08 March 16 15:42 GMT (UK) »
From 1901 to 1915 you can see the mother's maiden name on Irish Genealogy Civil birth's, it's better to cross check them against Family Search Civil indexes as they usually include a second name, but not always.

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Re: John Murtagh 1880 Westmeath
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 08 March 16 16:41 GMT (UK) »
What about Teresa?
http://databases.dublincity.ie/electoral/viewdoc.php?&voterid=837488&source=integration

Could this chap be Owen or is he too young
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/f6bb000083865

I'm having a lot of doubts about all this.
We need Kathleen's birth.