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Offline Tom Huygens

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Samuel Silver in West Wratting
« on: Wednesday 09 March 16 09:47 GMT (UK) »
Dear all,

I was wondering if someone out there is researching Rev. Samuel Silver in depth.

My 3rd great-grandmother was born in 1825 in Claypole, Lincolnshire, and married there in 1852 to a man (William Henry Graham) who was born in Brighton, Sussex, and living in Hastings.
I was wondering how they might have met, since there is no track to be found anywhere of WH Graham...

Looking in the 1851 census, I couldn't find William anywhere except a William "Brayham" with the correct profession and birth date, and wrong birth place, but I did find Catherine. She was working as a servant in the household of Samuel Silver in West Wratting, Cambridgeshire.
This in itself is rather weird, since her family was rather wealthy, but that's a different matter.

I was wondering if the link with Brighton could be through Samuel Silver. I have researched him a bit, and found out that he had one sister who was born in Brighton, and one son who died in Arundel in the 1850's, aged 17, "while visiting his brother JB Silver" (according to The Gentleman's Magazine; JB Silver is his 11 years older half-brother John Bye Silver, Esq.).
The Silver family must have some link to Sussex, maybe a Summer house? WH Graham was a carpenter (first a furniture maker, later in life a joiner), maybe he made some furniture for the Silvers?

If there's anyone who can give me more details, that would be great. I am looking for things out of the ordinary (i.e. I have already found all census entries, baptisms, BMD index records etc for him, his siblings and his children).

Regards,
Tom

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Re: Samuel Silver in West Wratting
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 March 16 15:03 GMT (UK) »
Where did you find that William Henry Graham was born in Brighton, if you haven't found him on a census?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Samuel Silver in West Wratting
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 March 16 15:07 GMT (UK) »
Ah - he can be found after the marriage

1861
14 MAry Street Lambeth
William Graham 42 house joiner bn Brighton Sussex
Catherine 35 wife bn Lincolnshire Claypole
William 6 bn Lambeth
Walter 4 bn Lambeth
Frederick 3 bn Lambeth

who does William name as his father on marriage cert?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Samuel Silver in West Wratting
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 March 16 15:08 GMT (UK) »
Where did you find that William Henry Graham was born in Brighton, if you haven't found him on a census?

I didn't find him on the 1841 and 1851 census. He is on the 1861 and 1871 censuses though. He died in 1876.


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Re: Samuel Silver in West Wratting
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 March 16 15:09 GMT (UK) »
Ah - he can be found after the marriage

who does William name as his father on marriage cert?

Yes, I do have him from his marriage onwards.

On the marriage certificate, he names his father "George Grayham (deceased), machinist".

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Re: Samuel Silver in West Wratting
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 March 16 15:19 GMT (UK) »
The only link I can find between the families is Lambeth/Clapham area.

William and Catherine are there in 1861, and have been for a few years looking at childrens birthplaces.

And I found this christening:
Holy Trinity Clapham

1805
Samuel Silver, the first son of Frederick Silver Engineer and Hannah his wife (late Hannah Bye a spinster) baptised Dec 3rd, born Nov 2nd

what a wonderfully helpful parish record, with her maiden name and a birthdate!

But, looking at the Bye name, this must be the right Samuel

May be coincidence that William and Catherine end up nearby of course!
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Samuel Silver in West Wratting
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 March 16 15:12 GMT (UK) »
Samuel Silver died in November 1856 aged 51 years, so that fits in with the birth of 1805.
Essex/Dorset/Berks