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Who did William HAWES marry in Haverhill between 1861 and 1871?
« on: Saturday 26 March 16 09:05 GMT (UK) »
I've had a very quick and satisfactory response to another request for help I made about this selfsame HAWES family in Haverhill last night.
However, I was wondering whether I could ask for one further piece of assistance.  In the 1861 Census there William HAWES is a 17-year-old single man living with his widowed mother Charlotte, 58.  By 1871 he is described as a widower himself, with a 6-year-old daughter Charlotte and a 5 year old son Alfred.  I think the June quarter 1871 marriage of a William HAWES to a Sarah Ann TURNER is him remarrying for a second time, as Sarah Ann appears with him in the subsequent 1881 Census.
So, it would appear that he probably married someone else for the first time between 1861 and 1871, and that she must have died prematurely, also some time between 1861 and 1871.
Is there any evidence of this in the Haverhill PR's, a marriage for a William HAWES and a further burial for a HAWES woman?  Of course he might have gone somewhere nearby for his first bride, though the two children's birthplaces are given as Haverhill.
I would be most grateful again if someone could have a look for me this weekend, giving the Easter egg/bunny hunt a pause for a while…
Many thanks, Keith

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Re: Who did William HAWES marry in Haverhill between 1861 and 1871?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 26 March 16 09:32 GMT (UK) »
There are 3 William Hawes marriages in Suffolk between 1861-1871.

2 in Ipswich 1866 and 1 in Risbridge which seems to cover Haverhill - Jun 1871 but that is the one you already have to Sarah Ann Turner

The 1866 brides are Hannah L Harvey or Elizabeth A Page

The other 1866 has one bride Sarah E Barker

No obvious deaths between 1866-1871 - 2 Elizabeth Hawes both age 40 in Blything and Woodbridge

A birth or baptism for one of the children would confirm who their mother was
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Re: Who did William HAWES marry in Haverhill between 1861 and 1871?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 26 March 16 09:37 GMT (UK) »
Milliepede,
Thanks so much for taking the time out on this Easter Saturday morning to have a good look for the elusive first wife of William Hawes.
Perhaps he wandered some way away from Haverhill to secure his first bride, though of course both children seem to have been born in Haverhill in the intervening years.  And yes, sending away for either birth certificate would unlock the mystery of who their mother was.  Always a decision, wondering whether to splash out another £9-25p on a piece of useful paper!
Keith

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Re: Who did William HAWES marry in Haverhill between 1861 and 1871?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 26 March 16 09:42 GMT (UK) »
Sorry not to come up with anything more positive but I am one of many willing helpers so don't splash out just yet!
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Re: Who did William HAWES marry in Haverhill between 1861 and 1871?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 26 March 16 09:46 GMT (UK) »
There is a baptism - 15 April 1864 at Haverhill -

Edith Charlotte Hawes born 13 April, daughter of William (Clothier) and Frances.  Address given as Queen Street.

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Re: Who did William HAWES marry in Haverhill between 1861 and 1871?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 26 March 16 09:48 GMT (UK) »
28 January 1866 - Haverhill

Alfred William Hawes, born 2 January 1866 - parents, occupation and address as Edith Charlotte.

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Re: Who did William HAWES marry in Haverhill between 1861 and 1871?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 March 16 09:50 GMT (UK) »
Oh, wow! Bumblebee,
That looks a very good fit indeed, so Frances could well be the missing bride…
Very many thanks for that,
Keith
…and that definitely QED's it with the further birth of William (our posts crossed in the ether).
A clothier Willliam indeed was then, but I've found an entry on the London Gazette of 18th December 1868 where he and his mother are going through the process of bankruptcy.

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Re: Who did William HAWES marry in Haverhill between 1861 and 1871?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 26 March 16 09:51 GMT (UK) »
FreeBMD death registration:

Frances Hawes - June quarter 1868 - Risbridge (which covers Haverhill)

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Re: Who did William HAWES marry in Haverhill between 1861 and 1871?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 26 March 16 09:51 GMT (UK) »
There is a FRANCES Hawes Death Reg Risbridge, age 25


And a Marriage worth checking out 1863 Marylebone;
William Hawes/Frances Foster on same page

Anc image has her indexed has her as Footer.
Williams Father is GEORGE

My Computer is very slow so cant access image at the moment.

Aah got it,  Fathers Occp Clothier :)
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