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Marriage of Julia Bloye & John Laird prior to 1813
« on: Wednesday 30 March 16 15:29 BST (UK) »
Julia's surname is a guess based on the middle name of a daughter, Mary Bloye Laird born c1816, Lynn ....

Julia died in Lynn, 1839 at the age of 53 - giving an approx. birth year of 1786.

John Laird and his 3 daughters are in Lynn for the 1841 census - the eldest girl Sarah Julia was born c1813 in Lynn.

John is around in 1851 and gives his Birthplace as Portsmouth Hants c 1777. But I doubt that - there was a clan of Lairds in the Lynn area from the mid 1700s ..... but that's by the bye.

I have searched fruitlessly over the years for their Marriage - in the last few years more records were made available and I found Julia's death record from the Parish Registers.

I wonder if a fresh pair of eyes may have better luck?

My searches focused on the Kings Lynn area, but I did look further afield to no avail.

My thanks in anticipation, Dolly

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Re: Marriage of Julia Bloye & John Laird prior to 1813
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 30 March 16 17:41 BST (UK) »
Hi Dolly,

Couldn't find a marriage I'm afraid, but an interesting Will, made by William Laird of Kings Lynn and proved in 1813.

In it, he mentions a son, John, and a daughter, Sarah, who is married to a Robert Bloye.

I'm afraid the link to the actual image of the Will doesn't work, but if you tick "Probate" and type in William Laird, the link should come up.

http://www.norfolksources.norfolk.gov.uk/DserveNS/

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Re: Marriage of Julia Bloye & John Laird prior to 1813
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 30 March 16 18:24 BST (UK) »
John is around in 1851 and gives his Birthplace as Portsmouth Hants c 1777. But I doubt that - there was a clan of Lairds in the Lynn area from the mid 1700s ..... but that's by the bye.


I wouldn't be too quick to rule that out. The 1841 census has him not born in Norfolk and there is this baptism :

John Laird 11 Aug 1777 ( baptised at 2 months ) Portsea St Mary , William and Mary Laird.

There is also a Sarah Laird born to William , baptised 3 Sep 1771 Portsea St Mary - could fir with the will mentioned by Yorkslass.
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Re: Marriage of Julia Bloye & John Laird prior to 1813
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 30 March 16 18:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Dolly

 John Laird's youngest daughter Julia married William South Freeman and is my husband's 2 x great grandmother.

I am sure I had some discussions on here with another researcher descended from Sarah.

I will check what I have.

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Re: Marriage of Julia Bloye & John Laird prior to 1813
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 30 March 16 19:12 BST (UK) »
Link to previous discussion of this family which may be of interest.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=166205.0

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Re: Marriage of Julia Bloye & John Laird prior to 1813
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 30 March 16 20:42 BST (UK) »
Familysearch has the marriage of Sarah Laird to Robert Bloye 18 June 1801 in Stoke Damerel, Devon

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Re: Marriage of Julia Bloye & John Laird prior to 1813
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 31 March 16 10:41 BST (UK) »
Many thanks to all who have replied to my query.

Of special interest is the Portsea Baptism - I was assured by a local researcher some years back that there "NO Lairds in the Registers ..." - just goes to show !

Now wondering if this William is the man who married a Mary Austin in 1764, Lynn St Nicholas ?

Thank you Barbara for the link from 2006. I have an inkling who that may be, so will try & get back in touch.

I am intrigued by the East London Marriage reference to a Julia Lloyd too !

My appreciation for all the help - Dolly.

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Re: Marriage of Julia Bloye & John Laird prior to 1813
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 31 March 16 14:00 BST (UK) »
Hi again Dolly

The marriage in London is definitely interesting.  I couldn't see any Laird baptisms in London for those parents.

I also had a quick look at the will left by Robert Bloye (proved in the PCC) who married Sarah Laird.  He names a lot of family members including a John Laird. I need to examine the will more carefully and to check the other children named in William Laird's will.

My concern is that John Laird, a Tailor and then a Postman does not seem to quite fit with being the son of William Laird, Gentleman and the brother in law of a RM captain.

I assume you are descended from Sarah Julia?

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Headington and Bateman - London
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Evan-Thomas - Wales and London
Purser and Cook - Hunts

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Re: Marriage of Julia Bloye & John Laird prior to 1813
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 31 March 16 15:27 BST (UK) »
Oh well done for locating Robert Bloye's will! Do have an online link?

I too have some doubts about the links, but given that our man is the highly probable bro-in-law (newly found Parish records from Portsea, and the likelihood that the 1764 Marriage in Lynn of a William Laird to a Mary Austin are the likely same parents shown in Portsea Register), and that we don't know if William's description of 'Gentleman' is linked to any affluence (page 2 of his will shows 'Effects: Less than 20')  ..... I think there may be hope!

We don't know what John Laird did or where he was from 1777 to 1813 when his oldest child was born in Lynn, did he come back to his parents town? - I suspect that father William was a Navy Man ?) ..... so when did he and Mary come back to Lynn?

I am not directly related, am doing some research with a maternal cousin for some years now (she is a descendant of Mary Bloye Laird) & this came up again - really pleased to see there are some more clues !

Kind Regards. D