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Re: GAY FAMILY - CRAIL AND BEYOND
« Reply #18 on: Friday 08 April 16 20:26 BST (UK) »
Monica and William

I wonder if the young son could be Alexander b1848, he would be the right age, 13, to be on the boat?

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Re: GAY FAMILY - CRAIL AND BEYOND
« Reply #19 on: Friday 08 April 16 20:29 BST (UK) »
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any mention of the Amethyst at all.    I have from somewhere found he was also on that vessel.    Oh dear the date of birth seems to be throwing all this family tree upside down???   Yet all the BCs, MCs and DCs seem to fit

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Re: GAY FAMILY - CRAIL AND BEYOND
« Reply #20 on: Friday 08 April 16 20:31 BST (UK) »
Harry, I don't think that entry is correct for Captain Alexander  :-\ He showed as full age when he married in early 1842 (ie over 21 years old). At latest, circa 1820. Death age of 47 in Nov 1861 will put him c. 1814.

Names of his children from what I have seen:

Alexander b. 1842, 1st, died 1847
Henrietta b. 1845
Alexander b. 1848
Thomas b. 1850
George b. 1852
James b. 1856
John Guthrie b. 1859

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Re: GAY FAMILY - CRAIL AND BEYOND
« Reply #21 on: Friday 08 April 16 20:32 BST (UK) »
There is a Masters and mates cert for an Alexander Gay from Crail with dob 16 Nov 1813 issued in Dundee in 1851-  the record lists all his vessels from 1830, when he was an Ordinary Seaman, until 1851 when he was master of the Mary (name not clear but I think that is what it says).

William

William, Mary is correct I think. Shows in the newspaper snippets as such.

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Re: GAY FAMILY - CRAIL AND BEYOND
« Reply #22 on: Friday 08 April 16 20:36 BST (UK) »
Will have a look but wonder if name has been transcribed as Guy on Family Search as there is a birth in Crail 1 Nov 1813 with parents Alexander Guy and Lucy Ramsey.

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Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)

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Re: GAY FAMILY - CRAIL AND BEYOND
« Reply #23 on: Friday 08 April 16 20:39 BST (UK) »
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These are indeed all their children.   There is no recorded Alexander born between 1810 and 1820.    I am beginning to think that Alexander is the father but I have picked up a different Alexanders birth.   Parents were married in 1811 in Crail and their first child is born in 1817.    If I could only find him in a census that may help!!!!!

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Re: GAY FAMILY - CRAIL AND BEYOND
« Reply #24 on: Friday 08 April 16 20:43 BST (UK) »
No Amethyst but list stops in 1851. Do you have them in the 1851 census as there is an Alexander with wife Isabella and 4 month old Thomas in Dundee transcribed as Guy.

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Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)

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Re: GAY FAMILY - CRAIL AND BEYOND
« Reply #25 on: Friday 08 April 16 20:45 BST (UK) »
That sounds like them in 1851. Henrietta and 2nd born Alexander are with maternal grandfather, Alexander Anderson.

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Re: GAY FAMILY - CRAIL AND BEYOND
« Reply #26 on: Friday 08 April 16 20:47 BST (UK) »
Will have a look but wonder if name has been transcribed as Guy on Family Search as there is a birth in Crail 1 Nov 1813 with parents Alexander Guy and Lucy Ramsey.

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William, this looks like this family in 1841:

Alexander Gay 55
Lucy Gay 55
Helen Gay 20
Thomas Gay 15
James Gay 14
John Gay 14

Address: Shoregate, Crail

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