GAY FAMILY - CRAIL AND BEYOND

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Monica

I am beginning to think I have made an enormous boo boo.     The Alexander that all this points to is the son of Alexander Gay and Lucy Ramsay and NOT Gay/Paterson.   

[MonicaL]

Harry, this is William's find for 1851:

William Anderson 56
Ann Anderson 56
Mary Anderson 17
John Anderson 15
Alexander Guy 37 lodger shipmaster b. Crail
Isabella Guy 34 lodger shipmaster's wife b. Crail
Thomas Guy 4 Months lodger b. Crail

Address: 50 Gellatly Street, Dundee

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Monica and William

all evidence is pointing to the wrong Alexander - no mention of any paternal grandparents and the dob is all wrong.    The Guy evidence is also strong.    Now how do I change my family tree from one person and all the children etc to another person

Harry

[MonicaL]

There is a Masters and mates cert for an Alexander Gay from Crail with dob 16 Nov 1813 issued in Dundee in 1851-  the record lists all his vessels from 1830, when he was an Ordinary Seaman, until 1851 when he was master of the Mary (name not clear but I think that is what it says).

William

This is a perfect fit really isn't it https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYV6-Y2B  Great find, William.

This is the rest of the set: https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bbirth_place%3Acrail%20%2Bfather_givenname%3Aalexander~%20%2Bmother_surname%3Aramsay~

Monica

[MonicaL]

Harry, have you looked at any of the images of the pre 1855 christenings for the children of Captain Alexander and Isabella? You can often get additional clues from the names of sponsors to the christenings when trying to connect to other family members.

Lots of great photos here https://canmore.org.uk/site/35336/crail-shoregate-harbour of Shoregate, Crail where both the Anderson and Gay family show as living for many years.

Monica

[Millmoor]

Alexander and Lucy (she is Louisa in 1851) are on the 1851 and 1861 censuses. His birth year is given as 1783 and hers as 1886. Their death certs should be on SP.

William

[Millmoor]

Marriage Alexander Guy and Lucia Ramsey 25 Dec 1807 Crail - there are a couple of other births of their children under the Guy surname  as well as a son John under the surname Gay - all suggests that you might have to search under both surnames.

William

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Monica and William

thanks very very much for all the information you have both provided.   I have now been able to "swap" the Gay family over to the correct Capt Gay.    I have also checked a few of the OPR births and confirmed  both Grandfathers as witnesses/sponsors.
Very interesting entry for Christian born (1807) before Alex and Lucia were married:
 "27 August Alexander Gay and Lucia Ramsey had their dau Christian (in Fornication) baptised (born 2 July last) Thomas Guy sponsor.  Witnesses William Scott and James Guy)"

Harry

[MonicaL]

Sounds like you are speeding back on track, Harry 

Monica