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South Armagh Genealogical Project
« on: Wednesday 13 April 16 13:20 BST (UK) »
Links to this seem to be broken, and www.sagp.org seems not to exist. Does anyone know what happened to it or where one might find the information supposed to be in it?

What I am looking for is a document about William Kirk, sometime MP, of Keady, and in particular any record of the birth/baptism of his daughter Hannah in 1837/1838. He married Ann McKean in 1820.
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Re: South Armagh Genealogical Project
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 13 April 16 13:48 BST (UK) »
I don't know anything about the site, but you might find an archived version at the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine:

http://archive.org/web/web.php

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Re: South Armagh Genealogical Project
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 13 April 16 16:27 BST (UK) »
Have you tried newspaper archives (online or Belfast, etc.)?

Google seems to bring up references- he belonged to 2nd Keady Presbyterian Church, so have you checked to see what church records might be available?
www.newryjournal.co.uk/2005/11/30/william-kirk-of-keady/

http://www.ringofgullion.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Kirk.pdf
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Re: South Armagh Genealogical Project
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 13 April 16 16:54 BST (UK) »
Have you tried newspaper archives (online or Belfast, etc.)?

Google seems to bring up references- he belonged to 2nd Keady Presbyterian Church, so have you checked to see what church records might be available?
www.newryjournal.co.uk/2005/11/30/william-kirk-of-keady/

http://www.ringofgullion.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Kirk.pdf

I found the Ring of Gullion web site, which is where there is a reference to a more detailed document at this SAGP web site.

Thanks you for the pointer to the church records.

The 'way back site' just keeps trying to direct me to a site that is unavailable.
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Re: South Armagh Genealogical Project
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 13 April 16 20:51 BST (UK) »
You have to go back quite a bit with the Net Archive - the SAGP appears to have wound down sometime around 2011/2012 - they state that their archives are now held by www.tichulainn.com although there does not appear to be any way to access those records online.

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 13 April 16 21:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks all. I'll keep looking.
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Re: South Armagh Genealogical Project
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 14 April 16 08:51 BST (UK) »
You have to go back quite a bit with the Net Archive - the SAGP appears to have wound down sometime around 2011/2012 - they state that their archives are now held by www.tichulainn.com although there does not appear to be any way to access those records online.

There is a contact section on the site or you could use Google to find the author.
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Re: South Armagh Genealogical Project
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 14 April 16 18:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks you.

I thought I might just e-mail them and ask if they have the baptism details. It's the daughter I am interested in rather than William Kirk himself because she married a relative of mine.

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