Birth Death Rev Joseph Ball & Mary Colebatch

[CHERAN]

I have found the marraige of the Rev Joseph Ball & Mary Colebatch at Upper Arley (Areley??) 27 August 1767 (The Rev is a widower) 

and the batptism of one son Timothy Ball....(4th January 1769 Over Arley) (Worcestershire, England)   

The Rev Joseph becomes the curate at Aveley, (Shropshire I think)

Is It possible that anyone can find any more details

ie  bapt of a son Theodore
     death for Joseph and Mary
    any details of Timothy becoming a surgeon?

Thanks for the help!

Cheran

I didn't know whether to post on shropshire or Worcestershire.....

Mary Colebatch is from Cleobury Mortimer.

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22 APRIL 1778 EXTRACT FROM WILL
Timothy Colebatch, Gentleman
Cleobury Mortimer

1/George Colebatch (married Ann
Hayward), second son

2/Mary Ball, wife of Revd Joseph Ball,
daughter

3/Jane Ball, wife of Benjamin
Hatton of Alveley

Timothy Colebatch devises one third of the rents etc to each of
all three siblings. Oddly, there is no mention of the New House

Witnesses?
Revd Joseph Ball husband of Mary Ball, dau of Timothy
Benjamin Hatton husband of Jane Ball, dau of Timothy

And

9 NOVEMBER 1786 TRANSCRIPT OF WILL AND LETTER
Jane Colebatch, Spinster, Ditton Priors

Sister to Timothy and Mary Colebatch

Revd Joseph Ball, Ditton Priors
Timothy Ball, Surgeon of St Thomas Street, Southwark
his son
All her real estate left to Joseph
and Timothy as Joint tenants,
rest in equal shares

Other people mentioned
Mr Fox, Attorney
Cleobury Mortimer
John Baxter
Letitia Hodnett
Thomas Page
Witnesses

Mention of Griffiths (London?)
and Waddington (presumed
Cleobury Mortimer

http://www.cleoburymortimerhistory.co.uk/new_house/CHRONOLOGY.pdf

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"Know all Men by these presents that we George Colebatch of Cleobury Mortimer in the county of Salop Miller (the cousin and Heir at Law of Timothy Ball late of Priors Ditton in the said county of Salop since of Saint Thomas’s Street in the Borough of Southwark and formerly of Surrey Surgeon and afterwards a Surgeon in the Navy (but now deceased)"

http://www.cleoburymortimerhistory.co.uk/new_house/1806.09.30%20Bond.pdf

So Timothy Ball was a surgeon in Southwark, Surrey and in the Navy!

[CHERAN]

Thanks for looking....

I am now assuming that Mary is deceased by the time of Jane's will...  but can't work why Jane is still Jane Colebatch a spinster on the will when she was married and had children with Benjamin Hatton??

[BumbleB]

Thanks for looking....

I am now assuming that Mary is deceased by the time of Jane's will...  but can't work why Jane is still Jane Colebatch a spinster on the will when she was married and had children with Benjamin Hatton??

BUT, isn't the Jane who married Benjamin Hatton Jane BALL?  Jane COLEBATCH must be someone else 

[Milliepede]

I may be reading it wrong but could Jane Colebatch spinster be a sister to Timothy Colebatch rather than a married relative. 

She can't be Jane Ball married to Benjamin Hatton can she 

[BumbleB]

Looking at the extract from Cleobury Mortimer it looks like Jane who married Benjamin is referred to as daughter of Timothy, whereas Jane Colebatch is referred to as sister of Timothy. 

But then why is Jane Hatton referred to as BALL, if her father is COLEBATCH?

Added:  Just re-read the Chronology file again - it is thought that Jane BALL is the daughter of Timothy BALL, son of Thomas Ball and Mary Colebatch.  Too many men called Timothy!! 

[CHERAN]

Thanks for looking.... I think it can confusing but

Mary marries Joseph Ball and have a son Timothy Ball.....  Timothy dies without children!
Jane her sister marries Benjamin Hatton....
They have  brothers  Rev Timothy, George and John

Their father Timothy (married to Mary) will bequeaths to George (married to Ann Haywood), Mary and Jane (both married) and son Timothy (not sure why that one as the Rev Timothy  is already deceased) but John is not mentioned as he is already deceased as well....

Timothy (died 1783) (married to Mary)  has sisters Mary & Jane and brother Thomas and John....  Their father is Timothy and mother Jane...   

I re read the Chronological as Thomas Colebatch has the mortgage of his sister Mary Colebatch which is excused as Thomas dies before her....

http://www.cleoburymortimerhistory.co.uk/new_house/1811.04.19%20Family%20tree.pdf
 
Timy
Colebatch
ob. Dec 1782 +  sister Mary purchd the New House + sister Jane survived & by Will 9 Nov 1786 Devd to John [?] Ball & Son  I think shoulds be Joseph Ball and this maybe her will that leaves to  Timothy and Joseph


Polydore Colebatch  son of REV Timothy  Colebatch Survived Timy Ball but was never actually Seised & died without issue

Tim. Ball died Intest. & sans Iss. but in Trin Ter 31.Geo. 3.d he levied a fine to himself in Fee  (not sure what that means though...)

Cheran....