Charles Melville death record Port Adelaide 1947 - lookup

[ewontner]

Does anyone have access to the Genealogy SA database. If yes, do you mind looking up a death record listed on that site for a "Charles Melville" who is listed as dieing in 1947 in Port Adelaide in South Australia. I'd like to know what the greyed out information refers to.

Many thanks in advance

Ed Osborne

[rosball]

Sorry I don't have access beyond the index.

But this could be his death notice http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article93220264

MELVILLE.— On November 11, at his
late residence, 33. St. Vincent street.
Port Adelaide, Charles, beloved husband
of Maggie Emma Melville. In his 73rd
year. A patient sufferer at rest.

[cando]

From my resource

Death
MELVILLE Charles  72 years  Status Married  No relative recorded
11 Nov 1947
Residence Port Adelaide  Death Place Port Adelaide  PtA 719/5387


Cando

[cando]

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article212945874
Acting Secretary for the Seamen's Union 1922

Australian Electoral Roll
South Australia
1938, 1941, 1943
MELVILLE Charles 28 Vincent Street Port Adelaide   Dealer
MELVILLE Maggie Emma 28 Vincent Street Port Adelaide  HD

ACA need to amend the headings on their date of death to date of burial/cremation.  I have notified them of many errors and they will change the date of death if you send the death registration and death notice if you have one.

West Terrace Cemetery
MELVILLE Charles (Sailor)  Died on 13 Nov 1947 [this is actually the date of cremation]  at 72 years of age.
Cremated remains not interred at a cemetery administered by Adelaide Cemeteries Authority

Cando

[rosball]

This seems to be their marriage notice 1913 NSW

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article15493908


MELVILLE-ALLBRIGHTON. - December 13, at the
parsonage, May-street, Methodist Church, by the Rev.
James Green, Charles Melville, to Maggie Emma
Allbrighton.

[ewontner]

  Wow, thanks everyone. This is all really helpful. Hope this is right person I am currently researching.

Bit confused by him as an individual as Charles Melville's original name was actually Charles Eschwege. I found out on a separate probate about Charles Eschwege being known as Charles Melville and living in Port Adelaide.

Am bit confused by reference to him being a dealer and also a seaman in different records. But the dates tally with his birth so I guess this must be the person I am looking for.

Genealogy always raises more questions than answers and now need to find way to identify birth of his wife and if they had children. Hopefully marriage and death certificates will provide more clues. Australian certs contain more details than UK ones don't they or is that not always the case? The death index doesn't refer to any relatives names so not sure if it will say much more.



Ed

[rosball]

Just confirming that it is the correct marriage ..

Silver wedding announcements (at same address as he died)
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article36599947 and http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article92431277

Hmmm not finding much at all ... 

Here's what to expect on Australian certs - it varies between states and over time
http://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html   This also gives a link to order a transcribed South australian certificate (in red at top of page).

regards,
   Ros

adding : NSW BDM where you can find marriage entry https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/

[cando]

I would assume that Charles had been a seaman who had established a second hand business in Port Adelaide.  Possibly his nickname was sailor.

I think you need to purchase a transcription of Charles' marriage certificate and let's hope he was honest with his information.  The certificate should give his age and place of birth; his parents' names and mother's maiden name along with his father's occupation.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx#transcription

13135/1913     
MELVILLE Charles    
ALLBRIGHTON Maggie E    
District Newtown

Details on a SA death certificate in 1947
    Date and Place of Death
    Name
    Sex
    Age
    Occupation
    Usual Residence
    Birthplace
    Length of Residence in Commonwealth
    Age at Marriage
    Number of Issue Living and Deceased
    Cause of Death
    Place of Death
    Informant

I cannot find a death reg for his wife.

Cando

[rosball]

ALLBRIGHTON seems to be a very uncommon name.   I'm wondering if it is an anglicised version of a German name perhaps ...?   Albrecht Albrechtsen ...?