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Samuel King born c1765-1766 died 1843 Yarmouth
« on: Tuesday 26 April 16 15:53 BST (UK) »
Hi I am trying to find out if I can find out the origins of my ancestor Samuel King.

His death certificate shows he died in Yarmouth on 19 December 1843 at Row 137.

He was 77 years old and cause of death was 'natural decay'.

He was a labourer and the death was registered by his son in law John Burrage.

His youngest two daughter's baptisms and some of his children's marriages (who married after 1837) confirm this labourer occupation with one marriage stating he was a coal heaver.

Samuel's age at death indicates a birth year of c1765 to 1766. But who were his parents?

He married Rose Bower Soanes at Corton, Suffolk, on 5 January 1795. Both witnesses were of the Soanes family.

Their children were:

Samuel King 1795–?
Sarah\Sarah Ann King\Burrage 1799–1873
Francis King 1800–1839\41
Daniel King 1803–1866
John King 1804–1807
Mary King\Horth\Bowman 1806–1871
Rosetta King\Humphrey\Pye 1809–1880
Thomas John\John Thomas 'John' King 1811–1884
Susannah Eleanor King 1813–1882
Elizabeth King\Rising 1815–1890

The first two children Samuel and Sarah were baptised in Corton and the third Francis was baptised in Gorleston. All the other children were baptised in Yarmouth.

It is appears there was most probably another pregnancy in 1797 but there are no burials in Corton that I can see so this was presumably a miscarriage or perhaps they had another child in another parish.

The names Thomas, Sarah, Elizabeth and Susannah were the names of his wife's parents and two sisters. Rosetta was evidently a variant of Rose.

Therefore it would seem that Francis, Daniel, John and Mary presumably came from Samuel's family. Given the fact that Francis was an early son it would seem plausible that this was the name of Samuel's father.

However I am at a bit of a dead end with this and so would really appreciate a new pair of eyes.

There is a Samuel King son of Francis King baptised in Blundeston in Suffolk in 1767 but he was buried there in 1768.

So who could my Francis have been?

Any assistance or ideas would be gratefully received!

Many thanks,
Jon
 

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Re: Samuel King born c1765-1766 died 1843 Yarmouth
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 26 April 16 18:07 BST (UK) »
Oh and to add to things I can't find him in the 1841 census!

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Re: Samuel King born c1765-1766 died 1843 Yarmouth
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 26 April 16 20:55 BST (UK) »
Transcription on NFHS Great Yarmouth St Nicholas
Samuel King and Rose nee Soanes
Rosetta born 11 May 1809 father occupation Baker
John born 16 December 1804 father occ Baker
Thomas John born 1 July 1811 father occ labourer.

Burial St Nicholas
Samuel King age 46 buried 7 March 1841 making his birth date 1795 Possibly the elder son

Poll Books Great Yarmouth
1795 Samuel King-Baker
         Samuel King Jr- Baker
1807 Samuel King-Baker
        Samuel King Jr- Baker

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Re: Samuel King born c1765-1766 died 1843 Yarmouth
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 26 April 16 21:07 BST (UK) »
Oh my does it give occupations for the children in Great Yarmouth for those dates?

I had no idea I thought there were none given and I knew about the poll books.

So presumably he is a Samuel son of Samuel!

This is a huge breakthrough.

I wonder what happened to him to change his occupation from a baker to a labourer/coal heaver?!

Thank you so much.


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Re: Samuel King born c1765
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 26 April 16 21:18 BST (UK) »
Look at the Norfolk Record Office website particularly Assembly Files ref Y/C

Petition 21 January 1791 by Samuel King for Robert Ferrier Burton to be given a coal meter as he was to become a Baker. (my notes only more info in file) plus more references.

Petition 385 This is when Senior left the trade
William Hall requests his freedom of the city he apprenticed to Samuel King -baker he will compete
his app. with Samuel King Jr. son of Samuel King who is leaving the trade dated 24 February 1800

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Re: Samuel King born c1765-1766 died 1843 Yarmouth
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 26 April 16 21:35 BST (UK) »
Did you notice that the baptism of Daniel born 15 February 1803 his father is Francis King and wife Rose Soanes.
Is Francis, Rose' father given in error instead of child's father Samuel.

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Re: Samuel King born c1765-1766 died 1843 Yarmouth
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 26 April 16 21:42 BST (UK) »
There is a Samuel King son of Samuel and Ann baptised Gt Yarmouth 19 Jan 1772

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Re: Samuel King born c1765-1766 died 1843 Yarmouth
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 26 April 16 22:07 BST (UK) »
Yes I had seen this 1772 baptism and the poll books but until now had not tied in my Samuel to the baker one. I really had no idea occupations were given for this period. I can't tell you ho delighted I am as this was the first line I ever looked at when I started in FH in 1997!

I was also told about this:

Death entry in the Norfolk Chronicle, 3 August 1811.
"Wednesday last, aged 66, Mr Samuel King, Baker, of Yarmouth"

So this must be his father. I assume Samuel was ill before his death and the bakery business was perhaps lost? If they worked together that is of course.

Thanks so much.

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Re: Samuel King born c1765-1766 died 1843 Yarmouth
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 26 April 16 22:14 BST (UK) »
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6LNQ-T1B?mode=g&i=51&wc=92BV-HZC%3A30456601%2C29359202%2C29389401%3Fcc%3D1416598&cc=1416598

This register does not list parent occupations so I assume the PRs and BTs give different information?