Edward SPOONER, boot and shoe maker of Wolverhampton, not found in some censuses

[bibliotaphist]

I'm trying to locate Edward SPOONER, boot and shoe maker (abt 1811-1898), in Wolverhampton, in the 1871 and 1881 censuses; also to find out what happened to his grandson John Edward Spooner (1853-?).

(Edit: grandson John Edward Spooner has almost certainly been located.)
(Edit no. 2: Edward Spooner senior now located in 1871 and 1881 !)

Timeline:

• 1811 (about) - Edward SPOONER born in Sedgley; Ann HIGHFIELD born in Wolverhampton.
• 1831, 15th August - Edward marries Ann at St Peter, Wolverhampton.
• 1832, 17th September - daughter #1 Harriet baptised at St Peter, Wolv/ton.
• 1837 (about) - daughter #2 Jane born.
• 1841 census - whole family together at Smiths Buildings, Wolv/ton.
• 1851 census - Edward+Ann and daughter Jane together at Stafford Street, Wolv/ton. Where is Harriet?
• 1852, 27th December - daughter Harriet marries Felix CORR at St Peter, Wolv/ton.
• 1853 - daughter Jane, "single woman", has a son, baptised Edward Spooner on 26th September.
• 1853, Dec Q - daughter #3 Mary Ann born to Edward+Ann. She died in infancy.
• 1859, 23rd April - daughter Jane marries William GRADY at St George, Wolv/ton.
• 1861 census - Edward+Ann and grandson John Edward Spooner, at 80, Herbert Street, Wolv/ton.
• 1871 census - where are Edward+Ann, and grandson (John) Edward Spooner?
• 1872, Dec Q - death of Ann Spooner.
• 1873, Sep Q - Edward marries Sarah MADDOCKS in Wolverhampton Reg. Dist.
• 1881 census - where are Edward+Sarah, and grandson John Edward?
• 1891 census - Edward+Sarah are at Montrose Street, Wolv/ton.
• 1898, Mar Q - death of Edward Spooner.
• 1901 census - Sarah Spooner, widow, is still at Montrose Street, Wolv/ton.
• 1903, Mar Q - death of Sarah Spooner.

Questions:

• Where is daughter Harriet in the 1851 census?
• Where is Edward Spooner hiding in 1871 and 1881?
• What happens to the grandson, John Edward Spooner, after 1871?

Spreadsheet attached showing the missing census years.

[Joburg]

Hi,
   I think Jane married William Grad[e]yJune qtr 1859 in Wolverhampton,cert will tell you the answer.

Regards

Joburg

[bibliotaphist]

Hi,
   I think Jane married William Grad[e]yJune qtr 1859 in Wolverhampton,cert will tell you the answer.

Regards

Joburg

Hi Joburg. Yes, that marriage is already in the timeline above  ... the O.P.R. is available as part of the Staffordshire collection on Findmypast.

[..claire..]

Hi

A possibility for grandson John Edward in 1881 is in the Wales census as a visitor in the Nicholas family , Pembrokeshire, Llanstadwell

With a Wife Emily and several children. ( Hettie, William and Edwin)

Edwd. SPOONER 28 Born Wolverhampton, Occ. G W Railway Clerk

Class: RG11; Piece: 5414; Folio: 29; Page: 5

claire

[bibliotaphist]

Hi

A possibility for grandson John Edward in 1881 is in the Wales census as a visitor in the Nicholas family , Pembrokeshire, Llanstadwell

With a Wife Emily and several children. ( Hettie, William and Edwin)

Edwd. SPOONER 28 Born Wolverhampton, Occ. G W Railway Clerk

Class: RG11; Piece: 5414; Folio: 29; Page: 5

claire

Aha - good find!

There is an entry in the G.W.R.'s register of clerks ("UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1956" database on Ancestry) for Edward Spooner, born 11th September 1853 (i.e. two weeks before the baptism of 'my' Edward Spooner), showing various postings from July 1881 onwards.

I think there's a strong possibility that this is him.

[..claire..]

Hi

If this is your man, JohnEdward Spooner is consistant in other census records with birthplace Wolverhampton and pretty east to trace.

1891 Wales:He is down as Edward Spooner 37,  With Emily 35 and children: Edwin TAYLOR Spooner 14, Nellie May Spooner 15  and William TAYLOR Spooner 11all born Wolverhampton,

Edward Spooner is a station master in this year.

claire

[..claire..]

1901 census he is in Westbury Wiltshire

Edward Spooner Station master aged 47 with Emily 45, Nellie M 25, a John Downs (boarder) and a servant Florence Cox.

Class: RG13; Piece: 1940; Folio: 69; Page: 16

claire

[..claire..]

Edward Spooner remarries in London 1910, a JULIA MAUD TUFFIN

Balham Hill Ascension 31 Oct. 1910

Edward Spooner 56 widower, stationmaster of Westbury Wilts. Father : Edward Spooner ~ traveller

Julia Maud Tuffin 47 spinster of 166 Cavendish Rd, Balham Hill. Father: Nehemiah Tuffin ~ carpenter

Both signed
Witnesses: James Edward Morris and Harry Richards

claire

He is back in Wiltshire by the last census 

[..claire..]

Edwards first marriage in Wolverhampton: 8 Oct 1875 St Peters after Banns

Edward Spooner 22 bach of Tettenhall a clerk. Father: Edward Spooner a bootmaker

Emily Taylor 19 spins. of King Street. Father: Uriah Taylor a foreman.

claire