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Re: Edward SPOONER, boot and shoe maker of Wolverhampton, not found in some censuses
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 27 April 16 11:47 BST (UK) »

1901 census he is in Westbury Wiltshire

Edward Spooner Station master aged 47 with Emily 45, Nellie M 25, a John Downs (boarder) and a servant Florence Cox.

Class: RG13; Piece: 1940; Folio: 69; Page: 16

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Bravo, claire, thank you so much.

I have him on the 1911 census now as well.

And a good find on the remarriage. Thank you very much for that as well. I think the father's name there might help clinch it. There are surprisingly few Edward Spooners. I have access to that collection on Ancestry.

Edit - see reply below.

If Edward Spooner senior was a traveller by trade for at least part of his life, that might explain his apparent absence from Wolverhampton in 1871-1881.


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Re: Edward SPOONER, boot and shoe maker of Wolverhampton, not found in some censuses
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 27 April 16 11:47 BST (UK) »


Edwards first marriage in Wolverhampton: 8 Oct 1875 St Peters after Banns

Edward Spooner 22 bach of Tettenhall a clerk. Father: Edward Spooner a bootmaker

Emily Taylor 19 spins. of King Street. Father: Uriah Taylor a foreman.

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Sorry, my last reply just crossed with this post. Spot on  ;D

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Re: Edward SPOONER, boot and shoe maker of Wolverhampton, not found in some censuses
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 27 April 16 11:58 BST (UK) »
Edit - sorry, I was getting myself confused. The real Edward Spooner senior was the grandfather, not the father, of the Edward Spooner born to Jane Spooner in 1853. However it looks as if either Edward junior might have grown up believing that the bootmaker Edward was his father, or else he pretended that was the case at both of his marriages...

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Re: Edward SPOONER, boot and shoe maker of Wolverhampton, not found in some censuses
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 27 April 16 12:01 BST (UK) »
Not having much joy finding Harriet in 1851 but there is an interesting one in Wolverhampton

There is a Harriet LOYNEL ( can't see any other references to her BMD) age 17 a house servant with a WILKES family on Church Lane

Surname does look like Loynel  ???

The only reason I'm pointing this girl out is there is a SPOONER family living two doors away. Richard 65, daughter Hannah 29 and grandaughter Mary Ann 4.

Class: HO107; Piece: 2018; Folio: 267; Page: 19

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Re: Edward SPOONER, boot and shoe maker of Wolverhampton, not found in some censuses
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 27 April 16 12:16 BST (UK) »
Probable death of grandson Edward:
  • Mar Q 1922, Westbury W., 5a 186, aged 68.
I've updated my spreadsheet to show only the remaining gaps.

Will take a look at that LOYNEL census entry.

Thank you again.

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Re: Edward SPOONER, boot and shoe maker of Wolverhampton, not found in some censuses
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 27 April 16 12:35 BST (UK) »

Edward SPOONER  (grandfather) is certainly good at playing hide and seek, I can't find anything 1871/1881  ???

Wonder if any of the returns are missing for Wolverhampton

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Re: Edward SPOONER, boot and shoe maker of Wolverhampton, not found in some censuses
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 27 April 16 12:58 BST (UK) »

Edward SPOONER  (grandfather) is certainly good at playing hide and seek, I can't find anything 1871/1881  ???

Wonder if any of the returns are missing for Wolverhampton

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There's nothing on Findmypast's list of missing pieces, but I don't know how comprehensive that is.

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/census-for-england-wales-and-scotland-missing-pieces

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Re: Edward SPOONER, boot and shoe maker of Wolverhampton, not found in some censuses
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 27 April 16 13:07 BST (UK) »

I've checked directories for the area for Edward, boot maker to get a possible address,-no joy.

Wonder where Ann was buried, a record may have an address , which may or may not be where they are in 1871

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Re: Edward SPOONER, boot and shoe maker of Wolverhampton, not found in some censuses
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 27 April 16 13:13 BST (UK) »

I've checked directories for the area for Edward, boot maker to get a possible address,-no joy.

Wonder where Ann was buried, a record may have an address , which may or may not be where they are in 1871

Claire

Yes. You'll have spotted by the number of Quarterly dates in my timeline that I haven't actually ordered any certs yet(!)

None of the deaths AFAICT have corresponding burials in the Staffs P.R. collection on Findmypast.