Do these signatures match?

[BradMajors]

Do the following attached signatures match?

[orkrad]

 Not sure which ones we are being asked to match. The Sarah Williams ones seem ok. As regards John's it seems like he was learning to write and spell his name in extract two. In the third extract the writer (who is possibly  the same person ) appears more confident . Do we presume that there is a time lapse between extract two and three?

Regards Orkrad

[BradMajors]

Dates:

1 & 2: 1813
3: 1772
4: 1830

[sami]

I see No. 1 and 2 Sarah Williams matching. Possibly No. 4 for the writing of the name Sarah.

Not sure about any of the John Williams signatures.

sami

[3sillydogs]

I would say that the "Sarah" signatures are the same person.

Not too sure about the "John"  The first one looks as if the person is not entirely literate and had just learned to write his name and the other by a person obviously comfortable doing so.  Given the time lapse between them, almost 60 years, it's possible.

[BumbleB]

Sorry, I'm going to slightly disagree here 

If 1 and 2 are in the same year, 1813, then they are not the same Sarah Williams.  Whilst the "Sarah" is very similar, the W in Williams is very different.  I think that 1 and 4 are the same Sarah.

[maddys52]

I think Sarah looks like the same person signed each.

However, if 3 is 40 years earlier than 1&2, unless he'd had some major health issues, I can't see them being the same person. the way the "n" of John is connected to the "W", and the W itself, which is very distinctive.

[Guy Etchells]

I would agree with BumbleB (there are differences between 1 & 4 but they could be due to different quality of pens & parchment/paper etc.
The number 4 Sarah is a much more confident hand.

None of the Johns seem to match.

The problem with making suggestions from a black and white image is we don't know how much has been lost in the scanning; for accurate conclusions we would have to see at least a colour scan of the original though of course sight of the original would be better still.

It is also helpful to see larger sections of the original as we can then see what the texture of the page is like and how the ink runs even if another hand is doing most of the writing. Sometimes the quality of the hand made ink makes signatures by the same person look different.

Cheers
Guy