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Re: The curious case of Rupert Graham - b. abt. 1834, Chelmsford
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 04 May 16 16:36 BST (UK) »
Or are William and Rupert the same person and he changed his name for some reason?

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Re: The curious case of Rupert Graham - b. abt. 1834, Chelmsford
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 04 May 16 16:41 BST (UK) »
By 1950, Percy seems to have changed his surname to Rogers.

Percy Leo Rogers made a statutory declaration on 7 January 1950 as follows:

That to the best of my knowledge and belief I was born at Sunbury in the county of Middlesex on the sixteenth day of April in the year eighteen hundred and eighty eight and that the certificate already furnished to the Civil Service Commissioners of the birth on that date of PERCY LEO SAVILL, son of RUPERT AND EMMA GRAHAM, relates to me.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: The curious case of Rupert Graham - b. abt. 1834, Chelmsford
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 04 May 16 16:49 BST (UK) »
Good grief - well, there's definitely a fair bit of name-changing going on in this family, that's for sure  :o And certainly explains why I couldn't find any of the children. Except Louis Wilfred, who seems to have kept the Graham surname - he's my route into this conundrum, he's the maternal grandfather of my step father.

I wonder what father William/Rupert was hiding (from)...?
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Re: The curious case of Rupert Graham - b. abt. 1834, Chelmsford
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 04 May 16 16:53 BST (UK) »
Holloway House doesn’t appear to exist any longer, although the pub next door in the 1891 census - The Britannia - is still in French Street, Sunbury, now called The Jockey…  :D

I think The Jockey was demolished a couple of years ago  ::)
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Re: The curious case of Rupert Graham - b. abt. 1834, Chelmsford
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 04 May 16 16:56 BST (UK) »
I think The Jockey was demolished a couple of years ago  ::)

I wondered if it might have been - when you run down the street on Google Street View, it's boarded up...  :-\
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Re: The curious case of Rupert Graham - b. abt. 1834, Chelmsford
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 04 May 16 16:57 BST (UK) »
Cecily may or may not be the Cecily St O Savile who married Albert Jennings or George Tomlin in Kensington, Sep qtr 1912.

The other bride on the page was Maude M North.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: The curious case of Rupert Graham - b. abt. 1834, Chelmsford
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 04 May 16 17:17 BST (UK) »
The death of a William Saville in Maldon in Jun qtr 1890 aged 53 may or may not be relevant.

Apologies - I reproduced FreeBMD's error as to William's age at death.  It is in fact 63 both on the typed GRO index and on his burial in Maldon, 21 May 1890.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: The curious case of Rupert Graham - b. abt. 1834, Chelmsford
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 04 May 16 17:21 BST (UK) »
This is getting even more complex - if that were possible  :o

I think I've found Percy Graham/Savile/Rogers in 1901 in Great Clacton, with brother Harold and brother Lewis (sic) - all have taken the surname Rogers and are identified as step-sons. And mother Emma is there too, married to David W Rogers - there's a marriage between an Emma Devenish and a David William Rogers in Tendring in 1892...

So that William Saville death in 1890 is starting to look like a possibility...
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Re: The curious case of Rupert Graham - b. abt. 1834, Chelmsford
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 04 May 16 17:24 BST (UK) »
So that William Saville death in 1890 is starting to look like a possibility...

No... wait a minute... that's nonsense if William Saville and Rupert Graham are the same person, cos they're in Sunbury in 1891... Unless they're not, and the lovely Emma Devenish managed to get another husband in...  :o
McArthur, Milne, Mitchell, Black, Robertson, Morrison, Slessor, Lawrence - Aberdeenshire/Banffshire. Muir, Waddell, Fraser, Orr, Cowden - Lanarkshire/Renfrewshire/Dunbartonshire. Dalziel, Dalzell, Gourley, Cromie, Crombie, Bell - Co Down. Haymon, Baker, Corke, Cooley, Ginger - Kent/London.