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Re: McAloney Family of Coleraine
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 21 February 17 14:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mr Valally.  There would appear to be two McAloneys families in the area in the mid 19th century.  Yours has Portrush connections.  The one i am researching is confined to the area around Cloyfin just east of Coleraine.  I do have information on both however.  Contact me on (*)  Boyd.

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Re: McAloney Family of Coleraine
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 21 February 17 17:37 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, Valally, for the recent family details which helped sort out Andrew McAloney & Jane Quinn. Still a bit more to check then post but here's a start with some details you've been looking for a good while.

Andrew McAloney died 1908 Portrush-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1908/05481/4534869.pdf
Age give as 26 but more about that later.

Jane McAloney, widow, daughter of Joseph Quinn, married 1913 James McNerlane (Andy & Mary Gilmour signed as witnesses). GRONI have groom as James McFarlane although the writing really couldn't be plainer!
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1913/09888/5592091.pdf

Their daughter Agnes McNerland born 1914-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01397/1574840.pdf

Forgot to add Agnes' twin sister-
Annie Mary McNerland 1914-1915
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01397/1574840.pdf https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1915/05275/4464843.pdf
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Re: McAloney Family of Coleraine
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 21 February 17 19:12 GMT (UK) »
James McAloney (c1842-1912 Crocknamack) m.(17 Nov.1861 Killowen) Mary Ann Carson (c1849-1903 Portrush)
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Portrush_Urban/Causeway_Street/932048
Death (1903) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05648/4589800.pdf
James McAloney in Hamill household www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Portrush_Town/Portrush/131208
1. William McAloney (c1863 Coleraine)
2. Annie Margaret McAloney (c1865-1871)
3. Robert John McAloney (27 Dec.1867 Rosemary La.-13 Sept.1874)
4. Son (1 Feb.1870 Rosemary La.-3 Feb.1870)
5. Annie Margaret McAloney (20 Nov.1870 North Rampart-26 Dec.1870)
6. Lizzie/Eliza McAloney
7. Andrew McAloney (24 Oct.1871 The Mall-29 Oct.1871)
8. James McAloney (13 Sept.1872 Brook St.)
9. Robert McAloney (20 May 1875 Brook St.-1961 Ontario)
10. Andrew McAloney (14 Dec.1877 Brook St.-1908)
11. Matilda McAloney (15 Aug.1880 Brook St.)
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Re: McAloney Family of Coleraine
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 21 February 17 21:10 GMT (UK) »
Continuing from the above post...

William McAloney (c1863 Coleraine-aft.1911), plasterer, m.(1888) Sarah Simpson (c1861-1893) m.2 Kate (b.Scot)
Marriage (1888) father James (carman) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1888/10765/5925760.pdf
Death (1893) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1893/06014/4711826.pdf
1891- 5 Forster Street Hebburn On Tyne: William McAloney (30 Ire.) lab. shipyard, wife Kate McAloney (23)
1901- Hebburn: William McAloney (36 Coleraine), Kate McAloney (32), Isabella McAloney (5), Margaret McAloney (2)
1. William McAloney (1889 Portrush)
     https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1889/02467/1916177.pdf
2. Isabella McAloney (c1896-aft.1901)
3. Margaret McAloney (c1899-aft.1911)
4. Catherine McAloney (c1902-aft.1911)
5. Wilhelmina McAloney (c1903-aft.1911)

James McAloney (13 Sept.1872 Brook St.), plasterer, m.(1894 Belfast) Mary Gaynor https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03240/2187016.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1894/10576/5852865.pdf
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Antrim_Urban/Church_Street/915544
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Antrim_Urban/Church_Street/292873
1. William Daniel “Willie” McAloney (1895-aft.1911)
     https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1895/02219/1837156.pdf
2. James McAloney (c1897-aft.1911)
3. Rose McAloney (1899-aft.1901)
     https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1899/02043/1782210.pdf
4. Marian McAloney (1901-aft.1911)
     https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01968/1758556.pdf
5. Fobby? McAloney (c1905)
6. Annie Martha Alice McAloney (1907)
     https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1907/01701/1674440.pdf
7. Maggie McAloney (1911)
     https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01532/1620756.pdf
8. Elizabeth Elsie McAloney (1914)
     https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01405/1577582.pdf
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Re: McAloney Family of Coleraine
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 21 February 17 21:33 GMT (UK) »
Even though I can't find a birth registration (I think she might have been born before 1863 and census age is incorrect) I'm confident that she must be of this family-

Lizzie/Eliza McAloney (c1871-aft.1911) m.(3 Nov.1891 St. Patrick’s) Archibald Hamill
Marriage https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1891/10682/5892922.pdf
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Portrush_Urban/Causeway_Street/932106
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Portrush_Town/Portrush/131208

Coleraine Cemetery- Cox in loving memory of a dear uncle Joseph died 23rd July 1988 aged 89 years and his loving wife Jean died 18th September 1960 aged 55 years also Jean’s mother Jane McNerlin died 9th September 1948 aged 72 years at rest.

Have more on James McNerlin which I can send separately if you are interested.
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Re: McAloney Family of Coleraine
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 08:39 GMT (UK) »
Meant to add that William McAloney's son William (born 1889) from his 1st marriage is with grandparents in 1901-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Portrush_Urban/Causeway_Street/932048

William shown age 11, ages for James & Mary Ann are years off and even son Andrew's age is not correct.

Also, William's first wife Sarah Simpson died 1893 in Ireland yet he's listed in 1891 census in England with Scottish wife Kate!
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Re: McAloney Family of Coleraine
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 23 February 17 13:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mr Valally.  There would appear to be two McAloneys families in the area in the mid 19th century.  Yours has Portrush connections.  The one i am researching is confined to the area around Cloyfin just east of Coleraine.  I do have information on both however.  Contact me on (*)  Boyd.

The Cloyfin ones are certainly an interesting family but not sure where your connection comes in  :-\
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Re: McAloney Family of Coleraine
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 23 February 17 18:16 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

There is a bit of a red-herring thrown up in the information concerning William McAloney at Hebburn.  I believe that William McAloney to be a descendant of one of the as yet unidentified uncles of James McAloney (who married Mary Carson).

William McAloney, the son of James McAloney and Mary (Anne) nee Carson, was born circa 1865-1870.  As a birth certificate cannot be located for him, I suspect that his birth was just prior to the commencement of civil registration for births.  This William McAloney married twice, both in Ireland, and died there in 1917.  He was also there in 1901 on the census with the family of his second wife, the Swanns.

For the specifics:
1.  William McAloney married first Sarah Simpson (as given by Aghadowey above) on 1 Jun 1888 at Ballywillan, County Antrim, Northern Ireland.  With this wife he had one child:  William McAloney born 9 Aug 1899 at Church Schools, Portrush, County Antrim, Northern Ireland.  Sarah nee Simpson died 28 Jan 1893 at Springhill, Portrush, Co. Antrim, Northern Ireland.

2.  William McAloney married second Lydia Swann:
Church of Ireland, Marriage Register Book True Copy, Ireland (www.irishgenealogy.ie), Antrim Parish Church, Antrim, Co. Antrim, Ireland, Entry #74, 19 Oct 1898.
"1898 Marriage solemnized at Antrim Church in the Parish of Antrim in the County of Antrim
#74, 13th July 1898,
Groom's particulars: 
Name and Surname:  William McAloney
Age:  Full
Condition:  Widower
Rank or Profession:  Plasterer
Residence at time of marriage:  Antrim
Father's Name and Surname:  James McAloney
Rank or Profession of Father:  Car-driver

Bride's Particulars:
Name and Surname:  Lydia Swann
Age:  Full
Condition:  Spinster
Rank or Profession:  Dressmaker
Residence at time of marriage:  Antrim
Father's Name and Surname:  Robert Swann
Rank or Profession of Father:  Farmer

Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Church of Ireland by License by me, M. H. F. Collis
This Marriage was solemnized between us [signed] William McAloney, [signed] Lydia Swann
in the presence of us [signed] Robert McAloney, [signed] Lizzie McColl.

I, M. H. F. Collis Officiating Minister of Antrim Church in the County of Antrim hereby certify, that the foregoing, comprising one entry numbered 74 is a true copy of the entry so numbered, made in the Marriage Register Books of the said Church.  Witness my hand, this 19th day of October 1898 M. H. F. Collis signature of Minister."
[https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1898/10422/5794752.pdf.]

By this marriage he had 2 children:
A.  Margaret McAloney born 8 Jun 1899 at Muckamsee(?) Grange, Massereene, Antrim, Co. Antrim, Ireland.
B.  Georgina McAloney born 15 Sep 1901 at Fountain Street, Antrim, Co. Antrim, Ireland.

The undeniable proof that this second marriage and series of events is correct comes in the names of the witnesses to this second marriage "Robert McAloney" and "Lizzie McColl".

This Robert McAloney and Lizzie McColl married 28 Dec 1898 at St. Anne, Belfast, County Antrim, Northern Ireland.  Their children, Adelaide McAloney and Malcolm McAloney were both born in Bolton District, Lancashire and emigrated to Montreal, Canada with their step-mother, Mary (nee Logan having married Robert McAloney 1 Dec 1902 in Glasgow, he claiming to have been a bachelor even with two children in tow) and step-sibling, Agnes Davis McAloney (Born Ayrshire, Scotland 1904), in 1909.

3.  William McAloney and his wife, "Lena" Swann were residing with her father and siblings on Fountain Street, Antrim in 1901 [http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000252597/]

4.  William McAloney died:
1917 Nineteenth April, Whitehead Templecorran, William McAloney, male, married, 47 years, plasterer, cause of death strangulated femoral hernia, five days duration, certified, informant Robert McAloney, son, present at death, Whitehead, registered twenty third April 1917, Chs. Dundee Registrar
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1917/05217/4443379.pdf

I have not been able to locate the birth of the son "Robert McAloney" named as informant on the death.  However, there was a registration in 1882 of a Robert McAloney but alas the irishgenealogy.ie site has attached the wrong image to the entry.  I have informed them of the error.

So,  anyone who has copied down and taken on the family details of William McAloney as given in Aghadowey's list of details needs to remove those from the family of James McAloney and Mary (Anne) nee Carson.

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Re: McAloney Family of Coleraine
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 23 February 17 18:17 GMT (UK) »
Following on from my previous post:

Recent (late 2016) research has revealed that James McAloney's father was one William McAloney born circa 1807.  He died 17 Aug 1867 residing at Rat Row, Coleraine [Source:  Coleraine District, D/1867/94/1008/2/499:  #499, seventeenth August 1867, Rat Row, Coleraine, William McAloney, male, married, 60 years, weaver, chronic hepatitis, three years uncertified, no medical attendant, Mary Jane McAloney her mark present at the death, Rat Row, Coleraine, registered thirtieth August 1867, Richard L. M'Intire, Registrar]

This senior William had married a second time, luckily Mary Jane LEIGHTON 27 Nov 1850 at Dunboe, Coleraine:
1850 Marriage solemnized at 2nd Dunboe Presbyterian Church in the Parish of Dunboe, in the County of Londonderry.
#36, 27 Nov 1850, William McAlony, age 27 or 29?, widower, weaver, residing at Ballenues?, father Robert McAloney, farmer and Mary Jane Leighton, age 22?, spinster, no occupation, residing at Knockmult, father William Leighton, labourer.
Married in the 2nd Dunboe Presbyterian Church according to the Form and Discipline of the Presbyterian Church by licence by me William Stewart
This Marriage was solemnized between us, William McAloney [he signed] and Mary Jane Leighton by her mark. in the Presence of us, Isaac Cameron and John Cameron.

The marriage, of course, provided the name of this senior William's father, Robert McAloney, a farmer.  Even though this elderly Robert was still living in 1850 there is no death certificate for him found so he must have died between 1850 and 1864.

Returning to James McAloney (husband of Mary (Anne) Carson):  He was born circa 1840 and so was the son of William and an as yet unknown wife.  The 1831 census of Coleraine revealed that there was an additional male in the household of William.  As James had not yet been born, this indicates the presence of a male sibling of James.  I believe his name to have also been William born circa 1829.  I have not pursued further research into William or any other potential siblings as yet.  But certainly, a case can be made for other McAloney's of the Coleraine area to be descended from the elderly Robert (born circa 1785).

I hope this isn't too confusing.  I'm a bit rushed at the moment.  If anyone has any questions please ask.
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