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Re: McAloney Family of Coleraine
« Reply #27 on: Friday 24 February 17 11:08 GMT (UK) »
Yes, definately a few things to clear up with the family of James McAloney & Mary Ann Carson.

In view of the marriage of William McAloney to Lydia Swann then this is incorrect- the marriage of William to Kate before the death of his first wife was something I flagged up earlier.

Of the 4, William is believed to have settled in South Shields, England around the turn of the 20th century after having married in Scotland

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William McAloney (c1863 Coleraine-1917 Templecorran, Larne), plasterer, m.(1888) Sarah Simpson (c1861-1893) m.2 (1898) Lydia/Helena Swann
Marriage (1888) father James (carman) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1888/10765/5925760.pdf
Death (1893) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1893/06014/4711826.pdf
Marriage (1898(https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1898/10422/5794752.pdf (Antrim & William’s brother James lived Antrim)
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Antrim_Urban/Fountain_Street/915583
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Templecorran/Windsor_Avenue/189120
death (1917) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1917/05217/4443379.pdf (informant son Robert)
1. William McAloney (1889 Portrush)
     https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1889/02467/1916177.pdf
2. Margaret “Maggie” McAloney (1899 Muckamore Grange-aft.1911)
3. Georgina McAloney (1901-aft.1911) mother Helena Swan
     https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01946/1751869.pdf
4. Robert McAloney (1903-aft.1917) parents William McIlhoney & Elena Swan
     https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01882/1731822.pdf
5. Richard McAloney (1904-aft.1911) parents William McIloney & Helena Swan
     https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01830/1714944.pdf

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I have not been able to locate the birth of the son "Robert McAloney" named as informant on the death.  However, there was a registration in 1882 of a Robert McAloney but alas the irishgenealogy.ie site has attached the wrong image to the entry.  I have informed them of the error.
Link to Robert's birth posted above- spelling of surname on certificate made it more difficult to find

Can also add marriage for James McAloney (son of James & Mary)-
2. James McAloney (c1897-aft.1911) m.(1920 Belfast) Anna Hutcheson marriage
     https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1920/09276/5358421.pdf
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Re: McAloney Family of Coleraine
« Reply #28 on: Friday 24 February 17 12:25 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all this information but the McAloneys I am interested in are James McAloney & his wife Mary Ann Carson. One of their sons Andrew McAloney would have been my grandfather. but he did not live a long time,seems to have died in his twenties.  His wife Jane Quinn was my grandmother and I did know her when I was very young. I stayed in her house later on in my life when my husband got a job in Coleraine, at Monsanto(Chemstrand). Of course she was no longer living at that time but I DO remember her very well. Although I cannot find a marriage certificate I feel sure they were married as she was always known as Mrs McAloney. Later when I lived in her house I found a wedding ring and engagement  ring and some rosary beads in a vase in the living-room (which obviously belonged to her).There was in fact  a suitcase full of some of her clothes and documents but at that time in my life I did not really bother to open it as I was not then interested in family history.This was in the attic of her house.  Now in the 1911 census she was living in Coleraine with her sister and husband and was referred to as Jane McAloney, likewise my father then only 7 and Jeannie McAloney then only 5. Also she claimed to have been married 8 years then.  I would have liked to find out if she had other sisters or a brother and where  their descendants  are at the present time. This was a mixed marriage so making it difficult to really find out a lot of information.

I have my father's birth certificate and it says quite clearly  he was born in Crocknamack Portrush on 19th Oct. 1903 and his father was Andrew McAloney also and his mother Jane McAloney formerly Quinn.

Any further information on my grandmother(formerly Jane Quinn) I would be pleased to receive.

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Re: McAloney Family of Coleraine
« Reply #29 on: Friday 24 February 17 12:59 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all this information but the McAloneys I am interested in are James McAloney & his wife Mary Ann Carson.

Most of what I posted recently IS your family- see posts #19, 20, 21, 22, 23 and 27.

It may be that Andrew McAloney and Jane Quinn either didn't marry in Ireland or didn't marry at all. Might be worth having a look for marriage in Scotland.
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Re: McAloney Family of Coleraine
« Reply #30 on: Friday 24 February 17 13:24 GMT (UK) »
Just typing details of Jane Quinn's family and our electric went off again so will be a while before I can post again
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Re: McAloney Family of Coleraine
« Reply #31 on: Friday 24 February 17 17:33 GMT (UK) »
Starting again  :'(

1911 Mary & sister Jane both born Co. Antrim-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Coleraine/Circular_Road/589422

Mary Quinn's marriage gives father as Joseph Quinn (labourer)- witnesses Matthew Mullen & Emily Taggart-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1899/10387/5781888.pdf
as does Jane's 2nd marriage-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1913/09888/5592091.pdf

A Mary Ann Quinn born Bushmills 1865- parents Joseph Quinn (labourer) & Ann McBride-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03556/2309287.pdf
Daughter Jane born 1876 to same couple-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1876/03073/2126309.pdf
Son Joseph born 1873 to same couple-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1873/03189/2169179.pdf
Daughter Rosetta (1878) to same couple-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02957/2083109.pdf
Daughter Ellen (1868) to same couple
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03423/2255749.pdf
Son James born 1871- father ploughman-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1871/03301/2209623.pdf

No proof yet that this is your Quinn family but certainly enough to consider them as possibilites and checking further
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Re: McAloney Family of Coleraine
« Reply #32 on: Friday 24 February 17 17:35 GMT (UK) »
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Of the 4, William is believed to have settled in South Shields, England around the turn of the 20th century after having married in Scotland

Yes, note the date of my post - May of 2016.  Much more detailed research has been done since that time.  Robert McAloney (born 1875) was my uncle whom I knew very well.  He was also the great-grandfather of another woman with whom I am in constant contact.  All family stories centered around the constant movements of the McAloney men "...always hard to pin down, never easy to catch...".  Certainly, Robert and several of his hard-to-track siblings have proved that family adage quite well.  Never know where they will turn up.  But, now William has been settled.


Aghadowey, thanks for digging out the births of the other two children of William and Lydia (Helena) Swann.  I didn't have the time to search all surname spelling variants and notice that for the registration of Robert (1903) the surname is spelled even more bizarrely than usual "McIlhoney"!  I knew there would be more children and, really, there still may be even more, perhaps some lost in childbirth.

Also, please clarify for me to which James you are referring?  If this is supposed to be James who was the son of James McAloney and Mary (Anne) Carson then, no, this is not correct.  If it's a son of this last mentioned James, then, yes, it is likely correct based on the father's occupation. I just want to be sure to which one you are referring in the snippet below.

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Can also add marriage for James McAloney (son of James & Mary)-
2. James McAloney (c1897-aft.1911) m.(1920 Belfast) Anna Hutcheson marriage
     https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1920/09276/5358421.pdf

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Re: McAloney Family of Coleraine
« Reply #33 on: Friday 24 February 17 18:12 GMT (UK) »
Yes, note the date of my post - May of 2016.  Much more detailed research has been done since that time.
Less than 1 year ago but unless you update the details we've no way of knowing what or how much new information has been found. Good to get William's family sorted out better now and lots more details in your earlier posts would need re-examining in light of everything found recently.

Aghadowey, thanks for digging out the births of the other two children of William and Lydia (Helena) Swann.  I didn't have the time to search all surname spelling variants and notice that for the registration of Robert (1903) the surname is spelled even more bizarrely than usual "McIlhoney"!  I knew there would be more children and, really, there still may be even more, perhaps some lost in childbirth.
The 1911 census says 4 children so likely all have been found.

Also, please clarify for me to which James you are referring?  If this is supposed to be James who was the son of James McAloney and Mary (Anne) Carson then, no, this is not correct.  If it's a son of this last mentioned James, then, yes, it is likely correct based on the father's occupation. I just want to be sure to which one you are referring in the snippet below.
see James son of James McAloney & Mary Gaynor in reply #21 (grandson of James McAloney & Mary Ann Carson)
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Re: McAloney Family of Coleraine
« Reply #34 on: Friday 24 February 17 18:27 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much for all this information. Just what I wanted to know and yes I am sure that this is my Quinn family.  Still can't find any details about my grandmas first marriage. It is a mystery, but I still think she WAS married to McAloney.

Posted on behalf of member Valally who had sent the message to me in error.

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