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Old Pandy Mill Afonwen
« on: Sunday 08 May 16 11:07 BST (UK) »
Hello
This is my first post :O)......
I am looking for people with any information regarding the property called Old Pandy Mill in Afonwen North Wales. I have found a ton of stuff that was either left to us when we moved in or that I have researched on the web, record offices etc including all

the owners....
the Ffoulkes, William Roberts, Robert Roberts, Arthur Newton Roberts, Charles Davidson (of Buckley brick fame), the Hurbutts, Francis Capel Cure (in prison with Winston Churchill), British Portland Cement Co. etc

and occupiers...
Joshua Jones, William Evans, son William Moses Evans, Helene Martha Harcourt Williams, William Henry Gilmour (first Professor of Dentistry), Gerald Lyon, Chris Bocking etc...... but any additional information no matter how small or trivial would be fantastic.

It has been a great challenge as the property has been described as being in both Denbighshire and Flintshire Counties (because of closeness to border) as well as Townships/Parishes of Caerwys, Ysceifiog, Nannerch, Trefechan and Trefraith, plus the property had been divided into two...where would the fun be if it was easy :)

I have seen the premises, a Woollen Mill on the 1849 Tithe and 1820 Bodfary (Bodfari) maps but would love to know when built and any photos up to the present?

Thank you
Evans - Pandy Mill Afonwen / Newtown
Jones - Pandy Mill Afonwen / Ystrad Denbigh
Gilmours - Pandy Mill & Ddol Isaf Afonwen / Liverpool / Isle of Man

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Re: Old Pandy Mill Afonwen
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 08 May 16 11:14 BST (UK) »
Could you disclose the Post Code please?

Is it alongside the River  and the track bed of the old railway?
Nursall   ~    Buckinghamshire
Avies ~   Norwich

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Re: Old Pandy Mill Afonwen
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 08 May 16 12:54 BST (UK) »
Hi, This is it's web site.
Lovely Antiques and other things.
www.afonwen.co.uk

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Re: Old Pandy Mill Afonwen
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 08 May 16 13:04 BST (UK) »
I thought that it used to be a railway station on the Mold to Denbigh line.
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Re: Old Pandy Mill Afonwen
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 08 May 16 13:08 BST (UK) »
That's the place I know as Old Pandy Mill.
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Re: Old Pandy Mill Afonwen
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 08 May 16 18:29 BST (UK) »
Thanks for replies....the post code is misleading as its CH7 5UP which is nearly a mile south east. I have attached a diagram I use for deliveries as they always used to get lost!!

The Afonwen Craft & Antique Centre used to be Afonwen Mill, which was a Paper, then Textile then Leather Mill with another mill across the road called the Wheeler Mill. It was a little confusing when for a time the Afonwen Mill and Old Pandy Mill both made flannels. Because of this I researched on all the Mills in the area, as the workforce sometimes moved around.

The old railway station is now used as a wood mill and their office is unchanged from the old station office.

It also has not helped with William Evans being a common local name at the time!
Evans - Pandy Mill Afonwen / Newtown
Jones - Pandy Mill Afonwen / Ystrad Denbigh
Gilmours - Pandy Mill & Ddol Isaf Afonwen / Liverpool / Isle of Man

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Re: Old Pandy Mill Afonwen
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08 May 16 18:39 BST (UK) »
The railway used to run adjacent to the river/stream  for many miles.
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Re: Old Pandy Mill Afonwen
« Reply #7 on: Monday 09 May 16 10:52 BST (UK) »
Yes I believe it was called the Mold & Denbigh Junction and used to run on the edge of our garden from 12 June 1869 to 30 April 1962  when it was closed to passengers but still carried some freight. The following year in 1963 the track was lifted along most of its length (except for a bit near Mold) and many of the sleepers ended up scattered across our land and have become very useful!!.

I have attached a link to a video shot just before it closed if anyone is interested titled "Mold to Ruthin and back by train" (Thanks to Alan Peters for uploading). It passes our Mill at 4:56 but nothing is seen due to the trees :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCaH11fsjCs

Also below are 1939 pictures showing the working and living side of the mill (the water wheel is unfortunately hidden behind the house in the first picture and to the right of the factory part in the second)


Evans - Pandy Mill Afonwen / Newtown
Jones - Pandy Mill Afonwen / Ystrad Denbigh
Gilmours - Pandy Mill & Ddol Isaf Afonwen / Liverpool / Isle of Man

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