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Matthew McElroy
« on: Saturday 14 May 16 09:28 BST (UK) »
Hello, saved this death registration transcription of Mathew McElroy thinking it was my ancestor who came from Louth Dundalk, his wife is a Alice Weir, they married in Ireland lived about 40 years in NSW colony, place of birth just Ireland, his profession a Cooper the same as my ancestor Mathew. Children of this marriage Charles 45years, Mary Jane 41years,Eliza 40years, Alicia 37years. Wonder if my ancestor Mathew McElroy went back to Ireland perhaps after wife Sarah passed on, and then he married Alice Weir and came back to Australia the year of birth around 1794 very close. :-[

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Re: Matthew McElroy
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 14 May 16 09:52 BST (UK) »
Difficult to help without knowing when this Matthew McElroy died so that we can work out approx. date for marriage :-\

Civil registration of Catholic marriages began 1864 (from 1845 for non-Catholic ones) so before those dates you'd need to see if a church record survives.
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Re: Matthew McElroy
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 14 May 16 13:02 BST (UK) »
hello aghadowey, thanks for your help, The Mathew who married Alice Weir died on the 11/5/1878 and buried on the 12/5/1878 at Necropolis Rookwood, certified by Charles son, Albion Street Sydney, I am not sure if they are Catholic or not. :-[

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Re: Matthew McElroy
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 14 May 16 15:39 BST (UK) »
Don't know if you have this transcript of their marriage.
Very little information on it I'm afraid.
10-Aug-1828       
Parish / District:   DRUMRAGH      County:   TYRONE
Husband      Wife
Name:   Mathew   McElroy      Alice   Weir
Address:   Omagh      Omagh
Occupation:   UNKNOWN      UNKNOWN
Age:         
Status:         
Husband's Father      Wife's Father
Name:   Unknown   McElroy      Unknown   Weir
Address:                  
Witness 1      Witness 2
Name:   Unknown   Unknown      Unknown   Unknown
Address:         
Notes:
MARRIED IN THE PARISH OF DRUMRAGH.

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Re: Matthew McElroy
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 May 16 22:37 BST (UK) »
1660
http://www.billmacafee.com/17centurydatabases.htm
there are several Weirs and McElroys in Co Tyrone but not in this parish

1796
Flax Growers Of Ireland     
http://www.failteromhat.com/flax/tyrone.php
the nearest was
M'Elree             Michael               Drumragh               Tyrone
M'Elree             Widow                 Drumragh               Tyrone

1830
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/tyrone/tithe-applotment-books/parish-of-drumragh.php#.VzeRWWOoc5Q
McIlroy, Chas.   T: Cavanaca Upper Y: 1830
Weir not found

Griffiths valuation some 30 years later for the same parish has neither name

if Charles was the father of Matthew and a grandchild also of the same name you might be in luck, proving will be difficult.

 the originals of tithe-applotment-books are in Belfast at the PRONI. access is limitedto visitors only or paid researchers etc. the information is very limited see the 26 counties tithes at the the national archives http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp  and try a few surnames
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Re: Matthew McElroy
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 May 16 23:34 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much for your information, I have checked my other Mathew McElroy he married Sarah McGoveran on 2/3/1824 St. Mary's Church by Rev.Thierry, and he Sarah and daughter Maryann were listed in the 1828 Census a publican living in York Street, Sydney N.S.W. Australia. I don't think its the same person now. :'( I thought I found the right one. :-[

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Re: Matthew McElroy
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 15 May 16 08:03 BST (UK) »
Trying to find my ancestor Matthew McElroy from Dundalk Louth, 1794 bap, in 1828 Census with Sarah wife and daughter Maryann aged 7, what is the best way to search for both their burial dates if stayed in N.S.W. or their immigration dates if they went back to Ireland, very confused and lost. :'(

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Re: Matthew McElroy
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 15 May 16 10:19 BST (UK) »
Trying to find my ancestor Matthew McElroy from Dundalk Louth, 1794 bap, in 1828 Census with Sarah wife and daughter Maryann aged 7, what is the best way to search for both their burial dates if stayed in N.S.W. or their immigration dates if they went back to Ireland, very confused and lost. :'(

Janet :-[

Why do you think Matthew & family might have returned to Ireland? It's far more likely they stayed in Australia or even moved to New Zealand. Have you checked online newspapers for details like obituaries or death notices? Searched for deaths in each area of Australia (N.S.W., Victoria, etc.) and then N.Z.?

I see that you've an earlier topic looking for 'Matthew' in Co. Louth but you haven't meantioned here that he was a convict (therefore probably more unlikely to return) and also known as Michael.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=247907.msg1362034#msg1362034

Another topic also on Louth board-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=246440.msg1350529#msg1350529
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Re: Matthew McElroy
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 15 May 16 13:18 BST (UK) »
Thank you aghadowey I have searched the BDM. in N.S.W. Victoria. and Queensland no luck with this search, have no idea if they stayed in N.S.W. or moved as they aren't in the 1841 Census for N.S.W. :'(

Janet :-[