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1821 Census McDonald Forkill, Armagh
« on: Tuesday 17 May 16 15:56 BST (UK) »
In my search for a Daniel McDonald and his parents, I have found a McDonald family, with a son Daniel in the 1821 Ireland census. The family lived in Aughanduff, Forkill, Armagh. Daniel's age is right for the person I am searching for, but the head of the house is down as "widow Owen McDonald" aged 52. Am I right in thinking that this means that the mother was the widow of Owen McDonald?

Eric
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Allesley, Bloxham from c. 1815
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Re: 1821 Census
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 May 16 16:43 BST (UK) »
Can you post the link to it so people can look at it?
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Re: 1821 Census
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 May 16 21:11 BST (UK) »
I got the details from the RootsIreland site, looking for Daniel NcDonald born about 1800 in the "census" option.
Eric
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Allesley, Bloxham from c. 1815
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Re: 1821 Census
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 18 May 16 01:24 BST (UK) »
Interesting. There are no Census returns for Armagh in 1821 on the National Archives site.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1821/
or 1831 or 1841

but others do have it.
Emerald Ancestors
https://www.emeraldancestors.com/news/1821_Census,_Forkhill_Parish,_Co._Armagh/11/
and RootsIreland of course


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Re: 1821 Census
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 18 May 16 12:55 BST (UK) »
I think it would be her marriage name your lucky the 1821 cencus is only I a few areas I was partly luck it had my kilmore mcbrooms

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Re: 1821 Census
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 18 May 16 12:59 BST (UK) »
Interesting. There are no Census returns for Armagh in 1821 on the National Archives site.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1821/
or 1831 or 1841

but others do have it.
Emerald Ancestors
https://www.emeraldancestors.com/news/1821_Census,_Forkhill_Parish,_Co._Armagh/11/
and RootsIreland of course

Forkhill Census was only discovered in a box in Armagh after the Census went online....

Don't know if/when the NAI are going to add it.
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Re: 1821 Census
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 21 May 16 18:05 BST (UK) »
in case its of interest a name approaching the possibility of  being very like the right name appears in
1796
Flax Growers of Ireland, 1796 - County Armagh
M'Donnell             James                Loughgilly            Armagh
M'Donnell             Patrick              Tynan                 Armagh
M'Donnida             Michael              Kilmore               Armagh




McDonald not found in the 1828
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/armagh/tithe-applotments/forkill-parish
.php#.V0CSLFf0bHh could any of these be possible
McDonnel, Patt.   - Townland: Mafoner Year: 1828
McDonnell, Charles   - Townland: Aughenduff Year: 1828
McDonnell, Francis   - Townland: Aghdanore Year: 1828
McDonnell, James   - Townland: Aughenduff Year: 1828
McDonnell, Joseph   - Townland: Aughenduff Year: 1828
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Re: 1821 Census
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 June 16 09:49 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the helpful replies and sorry for the long delay in answering ------visitors etc!!!

I made some progress in looking for Daniel & Anne Mcdonald. I have found 8 christenings in Aghagallon register of children of Daniel and Anne. In each case the surname is McDonnell and Anne's surname Odgers obviously caused problems for the parish priest or his clerk. It appears as Ogirs; Adjis; Adyers; Agers and Augers. The register starts in 1829 and we know of 2 children born before that, so 1-0 children found. I can't find the family in what remains of the 1851 census for Aghagallon. I know three went to Australia.

with regard to the "widow" bit in the 1821 census , I noted a similar words somewhere else. 
I presume it means either

Widow(er) Owen McDonald or
widow of Owen McDonald ???  Who knows!!!!

thanks again

Eric
Beeston, Whithead & Towle
Allesley, Bloxham from c. 1815
Foleshill, Gee (Jee) Adams Millerchip
Burton Dassett, Bloxham to c. 1815

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Re: 1821 Census McDonald Forkill, Armagh
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 June 16 10:07 BST (UK) »
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with regard to the "widow" bit in the 1821 census , I noted a similar words somewhere else. 
I presume it means either

Widow(er) Owen McDonald or
widow of Owen McDonald ???  Who knows!!!!

It would almost certainly be the widow of Owen McDonald as his name would have just been recorded as Owen McDonald.
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