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Where did Convict Henry Hunt come from?
« on: Friday 20 May 16 14:43 BST (UK) »
Please can I get help finding anything on Henry Hunt. age 18 yrs, convicted 20 March, 1832 St. Mary Newington for 7 years and to be transported to N.S.W. This information came from UK, Prison Hulk Registers and letter Books, 1802-1849. Would love to get any info I can. Thankyou

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Re: Where did Convict Henry Hunt come from?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 20 May 16 14:54 BST (UK) »
Hi - his conviction seems to have been 20 February, rather than 20 March, 1832, at Surrey Quarter Sessions.

Such records as survive of his trial will be here:


www.surreyarchives.org.uk/CalmView/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=QS
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Where did Convict Henry Hunt come from?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 20 May 16 15:49 BST (UK) »
His sentence was for 7 years, so he should have hopefully returned in 1839. There is a marriage for a Henry Hunt & Mary Ann Rains on October 1839 in Newington, Elham, Kent. On the 1871 Census they are living at Pean, Newington with their 3 sons. Henry was born in Newington and his occupation is Agricultural Labourer and Mary Ann was born  in Lyminge, Kent. I'm not sure if this is the same Henry you are looking for but a possible.

Kind Regards,

Ellen

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Re: Where did Convict Henry Hunt come from?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 20 May 16 15:57 BST (UK) »
His Certificate of Freedom was granted in New South Wales on 13 May 1846.  His original offence in England had been stealing a trunk; he had gone on to be convicted of sheep stealing at Maitland NSW in 1837 and transported to Norfolk Island for seven years.

Native place: Surrey
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Where did Convict Henry Hunt come from?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 20 May 16 21:04 BST (UK) »
Henry Hunt died in 1891 at Carrol NSW Australia 1891/7043 Victoria bdm

His birth year is 1814, so that might help you find his exact area of origin in Surrey. (Brian Walsh suggests a birthdate of 2 April 1814 here, what is his evidence?)

http://www.tocal.com/homestead/vandv/convictpdfs/hunt.pdf

It is interesting that his trade is that of a 'hawker' a common term for a gypsy/traveller maybe his family wasn't settled?

At least on researcher thinks he is this man from the IGI (it would be interesting to know how this conclusion was arrived at, do they have evidence?)
Name   Henry Hunt
Gender   Male
Christening Date    03 Sep 1815
Christening Place   SAINT MARY,NEWINGTON,SURREY,ENGLAND
Birth Date   19 Jul 1814 <<<--------------
Father's Name   William Hunt
Mother's Name   Elizabeth
https://www.geni.com/people/Henry-Hunt/6000000037777019304

Since he was convicted 20 March, 1832 St. Mary Newington perhaps the IGI makes sense?

Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Where did Convict Henry Hunt come from?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 20 May 16 21:09 BST (UK) »
His sentence was for 7 years, so he should have hopefully returned in 1839. There is a marriage for a Henry Hunt & Mary Ann Rains on October 1839 in Newington, Elham, Kent. On the 1871 Census they are living at Pean, Newington with their 3 sons. Henry was born in Newington and his occupation is Agricultural Labourer and Mary Ann was born  in Lyminge, Kent. I'm not sure if this is the same Henry you are looking for but a possible.

Kind Regards,

Ellen

It was very rare for convicts to return from Australia. That's why there was the 7 year rule; after seven years a wife or husband was free to marry again. The same applied in Australia.
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Re: Where did Convict Henry Hunt come from?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 21 May 16 03:54 BST (UK) »
The laws of bigamy applied to everyone, not just convicts.

"Provided always that nothing herein contained shall extend to.....any person marrying a second time, whose husband or wife shall have been continually absent from such person for the space of seven years then last past, and shall not have been known by such person to be living within that time..."

Many convicts were refused permission to marry as they stated on arrival that they were already married, others were granted permission, especially those with a life sentence who had little hope of being reunited with a previous spouse.

Debra  :)

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Re: Where did Convict Henry Hunt come from?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 21 May 16 03:57 BST (UK) »
Henry was again convicted in the colony as Edward HUNT and sent to Norfolk Island in 1837.

Susannah80, did Henry/Edward die after 1856?  If so, is there a mother's maiden surname recorded on his death certificate?

Debra  :)

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Re: Where did Convict Henry Hunt come from?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 21 May 16 09:31 BST (UK) »
Lots of detail in this research record http://www.tocal.com/homestead/vandv/convictpdfs/hunt.pdf
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