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Elusive children of Thomas Gibbs South Australia
« on: Saturday 21 May 16 06:13 BST (UK) »
My 2xgr.grandfather Thomas Gibbs married for the second time to Mary Ann Irving in Adelaide
in 1855.  Her name is variously written Irving/Irwin/Evering.  This lady's obituary published in
the Narracoorte Herald on 1/2/1927 stated that there were 12 children from this marriage, 6
daughters and 6 sons.   I am trying to establish the names and birth years of these children.

Other Gibbs family researchers have located 10 children, 5 daughters and 5 sons.
Sarah Ann b. 1855; Samuel 1858; William 1859; John 1860; Harriet 1863; Mary 1865;
George 1868; Helena/Selina 1869; Isaac 1871; and Charlotte 1873.

On checking the South Aust. BDM index I could not find an entry for Sarah but did find a birth
for a daughter Anne born 1855 to this couple.   A birth date for Sarah is recorded as
30th Dec. 1855 by most family researchers.  However, I am wondering if this was in fact the birth
date for Anne?  Would anyone have access to records which would give a birth date for Anne Gibbs
please?

Thomas Gibbs did not register the births of  any of his children born in South Australia from
his first marriage (4 children) so it would not be surprising if he neglected to register the birth
of Sarah.  The marriage notice of Sarah to William Woods 19.3.1877 stated that she was the
fifth daughter of Thomas Gibbs of Kingston (Border Watch, Mt.Gambier, 24/3/1877, Trove).
There were 3 daughters from the first marriage so I am attempting to find the fourth daughter.
I am hoping that Anne, born 1855 is the fourth daughter.

Any help appreciated. 

Regards,
Jen.


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Re: Elusive children of Thomas Gibbs South Australia
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 21 May 16 06:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Jen,
   This seems to be the death of Sarah WOODS in 1909 when she is reported to be  aged 50 (so born 1859 ...?)

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article199994672

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Re: Elusive children of Thomas Gibbs South Australia
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 21 May 16 07:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Ros,   Thanks for your quick reply, that is promising for a later birth date.

Regards,
Jen.
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Jennings NSW, Australia
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Kirby  Lechlade, Gloucestershire
Hampshire  Stepney, Middlesex & Hampshire
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Keys,  Tyrone Ireland & NSW Australia

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Re: Elusive children of Thomas Gibbs South Australia
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 21 May 16 08:14 BST (UK) »
Anne Gibbs was born 30th Dec 1855, birthplace and residence not recorded.
Parents Thomas Gibbs and Mary Irwin.
District: Rob
Symbol: XA
Book: 12
Page: 665
Cross reference: see also Irwin, Anne.
I am Australian, from all the lands I come (my ancestors, at least!)

Pine/Pyne, Dowdeswell, Kempster, Sando/Sandoe/Sandow, Nancarrow, Hounslow, Youatt, Richardson, Jarmyn, Oxlade, Coad, Kelsey, Crampton, Lindner, Pittaway, and too many others to name.
Devon, Dorset, Gloucs, Cornwall, Warwickshire, Bucks, Oxfordshire, Wilts, Germany, Sweden, and of course London, to name a few.


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Re: Elusive children of Thomas Gibbs South Australia
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 21 May 16 08:16 BST (UK) »
The details are exactly the same for the Irwin entry.
I am Australian, from all the lands I come (my ancestors, at least!)

Pine/Pyne, Dowdeswell, Kempster, Sando/Sandoe/Sandow, Nancarrow, Hounslow, Youatt, Richardson, Jarmyn, Oxlade, Coad, Kelsey, Crampton, Lindner, Pittaway, and too many others to name.
Devon, Dorset, Gloucs, Cornwall, Warwickshire, Bucks, Oxfordshire, Wilts, Germany, Sweden, and of course London, to name a few.

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Re: Elusive children of Thomas Gibbs South Australia
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 21 May 16 08:25 BST (UK) »
Including Anne, there are 9 Gibbs children registered in the SA Birth Index to this couple: Anne 1855, Samuel 1858, William 1859, John 1860, Harriet 1863, Mary 1865, Helena 1869, Isaac 1871, Charlotte 1873.
I am Australian, from all the lands I come (my ancestors, at least!)

Pine/Pyne, Dowdeswell, Kempster, Sando/Sandoe/Sandow, Nancarrow, Hounslow, Youatt, Richardson, Jarmyn, Oxlade, Coad, Kelsey, Crampton, Lindner, Pittaway, and too many others to name.
Devon, Dorset, Gloucs, Cornwall, Warwickshire, Bucks, Oxfordshire, Wilts, Germany, Sweden, and of course London, to name a few.

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Re: Elusive children of Thomas Gibbs South Australia
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 21 May 16 08:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Pinefamily,   Thankyou for your replies and confirmation of the December birthdate
                     for Anne, much appreciated.

                     Are there any further records e.g. death, marriage, for Anne? Have
                     checked the BDM index and Familysearch without result.

Regards,
Jen.
                   
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Hampshire  Stepney, Middlesex & Hampshire
Goddard,  Isle of Wight
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Keys,  Tyrone Ireland & NSW Australia

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Re: Elusive children of Thomas Gibbs South Australia
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 21 May 16 09:06 BST (UK) »
There is no other likely marriage for Anne/Ann Gibbs, except for the Sarah Ann one in 1877 that you already have.
I am Australian, from all the lands I come (my ancestors, at least!)

Pine/Pyne, Dowdeswell, Kempster, Sando/Sandoe/Sandow, Nancarrow, Hounslow, Youatt, Richardson, Jarmyn, Oxlade, Coad, Kelsey, Crampton, Lindner, Pittaway, and too many others to name.
Devon, Dorset, Gloucs, Cornwall, Warwickshire, Bucks, Oxfordshire, Wilts, Germany, Sweden, and of course London, to name a few.

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Re: Elusive children of Thomas Gibbs South Australia
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 21 May 16 13:51 BST (UK) »
George's birth might not have been registered but his death was.
George GIBBS
Death Date: 14 Mar 1868, age: 4months
Relatives: Thomas GIBBS (F), Mary GIBBS (M)
Residence and death place: Near Kingston
District: Robe 31/330

BISA says there were twelve children, but only mentions seven by name, then states "5 children". Maybe to reconcile with the obit, which might not be correct.

Oh and just as a matter of interest, Mary Gibbs married my great grandmother's brother, Richard HOCKING.
UK: Lee, Swift
CON: Davey, Harding, Hocking, Rule, Whinnen
AUST: McIntosh