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James Sharp / Churchman
« on: Monday 23 May 16 12:47 BST (UK) »
I have found a baptism for James Churchman 12 November 1786 - at Blatherwycke, Northamptonshire.
Father Thomas Churchman and mother Mary Sharp.
James's 1786 baptism record at Blatherwyke (found on the Free REG website) states - under the parents' names - "abode - Wing RUT" (i.e. county of Rutland). 
Blatherwycke C of E gives
12 Nov 1786
James SHARP /CHURCHMAN s of Thomas Churchman & Mary Sharp of
the parish of Wing, Rutland
It appears that James was illegitimate.
I am wondering if anyone with access is able to see if Mary Sharp appears in any Bastardy records or Removal Orders.  I am in Australia and trying to trace the birth of a James Sharp in Lincolnshire born about that time.

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Re: James Sharp / Churchman
« Reply #1 on: Monday 23 May 16 14:16 BST (UK) »
  I am in Australia and trying to trace the birth of a James Sharp in Lincolnshire born about that time.

Does this James Sharp appear on census in Lincolnshire  :-\
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Re: James Sharp / Churchman
« Reply #2 on: Monday 23 May 16 14:33 BST (UK) »
Another similar post;
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=625567.0

Looking for James c 1788 Butterwick, Lincs
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: James Sharp / Churchman
« Reply #3 on: Monday 23 May 16 14:35 BST (UK) »
Thanks Trish,  I had wondered if that was who it was  :)
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Re: James Sharp / Churchman
« Reply #4 on: Monday 23 May 16 15:22 BST (UK) »
Children Baptised St James, Freiston; to James and Ann Sharp/e
PRISCILLA, 15 Nov 1807
AQUILA, 19 March 1809
APOLLOS, 9 Sept 1810, Buried 05 Sep 1819 age 7 (should be 8?)
ALEXDR, 12 Jul 1812
JOHN RAISON, 10 Oct 1813, Buried 14 Oct 1813

1st Ann was Buried same Church 19 Nov 1816 age 39

I was hoping the Raison in John Raison Sharps name would hold a clue.
Only Marriage I can find  is Sabra Sharp to John Rason 26 Oct 1784 Butterwick
She seems to have been born 1750 to JAMES/SARAH

So not much help there.

 
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Re: James Sharp / Churchman
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 24 May 16 00:02 BST (UK) »
Thank you both.

Yes I am getting desperate.  Perhaps I should just give up.

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Re: James Sharp / Churchman
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 24 May 16 09:10 BST (UK) »
It is a difficult one sharpray.

FreeREG has these Baptisms Lincs;
All for JAMES Sharp;
30 June 1782 Sibsey to Richd/Mary
19 March 1786 Habrorough to William/Ann, Buried 4 June 1786 (so not yours)
12 Oct 1787 Crowland to Tobias/Elizabeth
24 April 1791 Freiston to James/Mary, Buried 17 June 1791 (so not yours)
Under Sharpe;
29 March 1790 Fulbeck to Wm/Leticia

It may be a good idea to follow those that lived on Census to try and eliminate them.

There are several Sharp Baptisms in Butterwick on there but no James
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Re: James Sharp / Churchman
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 24 May 16 10:27 BST (UK) »
Thanks Trish.

I have found my James on every Census until his death.
With his various children by two wives.
I have tracked every James baptised in Lincolnshire anywhere near his claimed birth date of 1788 as given in the census returns.

I am convinced that he either was not baptised, was baptised in another County, or born under another name and adopted. I have traced most of the James Sharp/Sharpe's in other counties.
I have failed to find any record for a James Churchman such as marriage etc, I have failed to find any definite event for this James Sharp.

The counties aren't far from Lincolnshire and I still have a funny feeling about the Parish name.

I know I am clutching at straws but I have checked most possibilities. The biblical names of his children could mean he was a nonconformist or raised by a religious person. He did have involvement at the Freiston Church. For the period he was very literate, signing marriage records and was a Registrar at one time signing death certificates including that of one of his own children.

I have searched thoroughly.

Thank you for your time.

Sharpray