Confused by Marriage Licence and Bonds!

[B17_Fan]

There are 2 records on Find my past of the same marriage but 2 years apart.

The first is from the Berks Marriage Transcription which says William Marshall married Jane Blackford in Brightwalton in 1757.

There is a second record from the Sarum Marriage licence Bonds Transcription. It says William Marshall married Jane Blackford, Place: Hungerford. Date 1759

Why would there be 2 records?

[rosie99]

The 1759 record still has the marriage at Bright Walton - the groom is from Hungerford. the bride Bright Walton

It looks as though one of them has the wrong year - the bond is Dec 17th the marriage 18 Dec which would tie in

[B17_Fan]

Why would they need a bond though?

[ribbo39]

Hi B17_Fan,

Interestingly I have both of these individuals in my tree  as a daughter married my ggg grandfather in 1810 and died in 1836.
Because if this anomaly regarding the dates, I wrote to the Berks FHS and they replied having checked the Brightwalton register and found that "William Marshall of Newtown Berks married Jane Blackford of Brightwalton by Licenece on 18 December 1757 Ralph Price was the minister, Willm Savory & Willim Flower were the Witnesses"
I believe a wrong year was transcribed as the Licence was dated 17 Dec,  and 1759 used instead of 1757.

Alan

[B17_Fan]

Hi B17_Fan,

Interestingly I have both of these individuals in my tree  as a daughter married my ggg grandfather in 1810 and died in 1836.
Because if this anomaly regarding the dates, I wrote to the Berks FHS and they replied having checked the Brightwalton register and found that "William Marshall of Newtown Berks married Jane Blackford of Brightwalton by Licenece on 18 December 1757 Ralph Price was the minister, Willm Savory & Willim Flower were the Witnesses"
I believe a wrong year was transcribed as the Licence was dated 17 Dec,  and 1759 used instead of 1757.

Alan

Hi. Thanks for that information. Do you know why they needed a bond as well as a licence?
Also, the only child of theirs that i know about, is Ann Marshall, born in Welford in 1774.
She is my great x5 grandmother.
Do you know what other children they had, or any other information about them, such as birth dates/location etc.
All I know is their names.

Kind Regards
Hayley

[ribbo39]

Hi Hayley,
Do you know why they needed a bond as well as a licence? Sorry I have no Idea re a Bond.

I believe they may have had about 11-12 either in Brightwalton and/or Lambourn.
If you go to this address you can see the B/Walton entries;
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hon/

For Lambourn there are "freepages.genealogy etc here;
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pbtyc/PR_Index.html#top
Just select Lambourn then the year range.

I hope you find these links useful.

The "Marshall" bapts I have in B/W are;
John 4-4-1760 (but the mother is listed as Mary so may not be theirs or mis-transcription)
Hannah 25-3-1764
William 9-11-1766
Mary 24-12-1769
Ann 17-4-1772
Martha 1-1-1775

The following are Lambourn;
Richard 29-4-1781
Thomas 23-2-1783
Rebekah 21-8-1785
Joseph 2-3-1788
Ann 22-5-1791
James 9-11-1794

Jane Marshall (nee Blackford) may have been buried 26-5-1795 in Sparsholt. Its the only burial I have found that tends to fit. Nothing at all on William Marshall not even a Bapt...


Alan

[smudwhisk]

Explanation about Marriage Licences, Bonds & Allegations can be found here - http://www.durhamrecordoffice.org.uk/Pages/MarriageLicencesBondsandAllegations.aspx.  The information won't just relate to Durham specifically.

[LizzieL]

For Lambourn there are "freepages.genealogy etc here;
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pbtyc/PR_Index.html#top
Just select Lambourn then the year range.

I hope you find these links useful.

The "Marshall" bapts I have in B/W are;
John 4-4-1760 (but the mother is listed as Mary so may not be theirs or mis-transcription)
Hannah 25-3-1764
William 9-11-1766
Mary 24-12-1769
Ann 17-4-1772
Martha 1-1-1775

The following are Lambourn;
Richard 29-4-1781
Thomas 23-2-1783
Rebekah 21-8-1785
Joseph 2-3-1788
Ann 22-5-1791
James 9-11-1794

Jane Marshall (nee Blackford) may have been buried 26-5-1795 in Sparsholt. Its the only burial I have found that tends to fit. Nothing at all on William Marshall not even a Bapt...


Alan

That seems quite a large year range for one woman to produce children, assuming baptism wasn't too long after birth.

[ribbo39]

Hi LizzieL,

I have to agree it is a big range and it may cover two families with same names; one in B/W & the other in Lambourn.

Jane Blackford was only about 18 when she married which may be the reason for the marriage by Licence.

Alan