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Re: Joseph White Lacey/Ladd b.1816 - in Penn, Buckinghamshire?
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 10 August 16 23:00 BST (UK) »
So the 1847 marriage was at, All Saints, High Wycombe.  Is that correct.

So that would make his age around 28(1819) when married.  According to the census, his y.o.b is roughly 1815.  So that would make him 32 years old, when married.

It does not matter what religion your are, the requirement is, the marriage should be registered, wherever it happened after 1837.

The LADD surname, as we've guessed, is a mis-transcription of Lacey.  So, was it mother WHITE, and father LACEY, or vice versa.

Steve. :)
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Re: Joseph White Lacey/Ladd b.1816 - in Penn, Buckinghamshire?
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 13 August 16 20:27 BST (UK) »
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I cannot see what the problem is

As I have said before and if you don't believe me look on freemb it states there when he was married as I have also said Joseph and Caroline were of full age what that was it does not say.

But there was a daughter born out of wedlock to them, before they were married.

Sadly know where at the mo has his correct date of birth but the witness where James Harvey and Charlotte Harvey, and her mother was Mary

Plus he could read and write which she could not,


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Re: Joseph White Lacey/Ladd b.1816 - in Penn, Buckinghamshire?
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 13 August 16 22:44 BST (UK) »
Not a problem. All I asked, was the marriage in High Wycombe All Saints church, as that is the Church, according to the BucksFHS, Churchfinder facility.

I was just trying to ascertain his correct y.o.b.  What age was he when he died.?

Steve.:)
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Re: Joseph White Lacey/Ladd b.1816 - in Penn, Buckinghamshire?
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 01 September 16 20:47 BST (UK) »
I think I have found the answer to Joseph white (ladd or Lacey)

He was a nonconformists so was James White and Phillis Babb that why there marriage was not registered as BFH only do regular churches. I am waiting for there marriage certificate

Joseph was born 31 July 1809 in Penn he also was a non conformist that why I could find no birth certificate for him, his parents were William White and Mary White.

He some where changed religions as I make it he had two children out of wedlock??

I have also been through Phillimore directory and found nothing because they only  recognise the Church of England.

The IGI site have most of the non-conformist on there

I am going to keep rechecking but his last name seems to be a joke

Susan


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Re: Joseph White Lacey/Ladd b.1816 - in Penn, Buckinghamshire?
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 01 September 16 21:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks for keeping us up to date. :) 

Ladd is a mis-transcription, I'm sure.....it is a bit of a scrawl in the 1841 census. ::)

Where does the Lacey name fit in.  ???

I think you mean his baptism certificate/entry.....no birth certs before 1837.

Steve. :)
Ives, Stevens, Allen, Smith, King, Wooster, Elwood from Monks and Princes Risborough, Aylesbury, Wendover, Great Missenden, Bledlow, Horsenden, Saunderton, West Wycombe, High Wycombe, Lacey Green, Longwick, Illmer,  Hughenden, Prestwood, The Kimbles, Haslemere, Bradenham, Aston Clinton and more......!!  Plus a whole host of Oxfordshire areas.
Graham, Pimlott, Burgess from Cheshire and Lancashire area.
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Re: Joseph White Lacey/Ladd b.1816 - in Penn, Buckinghamshire?
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 07 September 16 19:45 BST (UK) »
I have just been on the igi web site and film no 1999460 name the Whites that lived and died in Penn.

Also some information does anyone have the time to go to Kew Gardens because they have (what was not destroyed in the fire) census reports from 1801-1831 this also should help find Joseph.

What you have to ask for is Home Office: 1831 Census: Clergymen`s Returns I have a print out here and the no is HO71

But first I would ask if they are kept there as I have had a bad experience with them

You have to book tickets on line as the census are keep in cold storage

If anyone could go and get copies I would appreciate them, I sadly cannot go till next year my next time off

Susan
Hope this helps