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James Henry Fiander b 1864
« on: Thursday 26 May 16 20:46 BST (UK) »
Hi all, looking for a bit of help with this chap: James Henry Fiander was born to George and Mary Ann Finder in 1864 in Tarrant Keyneston.

- He appears in the 1911 census as married to Lavinia for 28 years, which I think leads me to think that he is the same James Henry who married Lavinia Thorne in Poole in 1883.

- There is a James Fiander married to Lavinia in 1901 census, Tarrant Keyneston, with sons James H and Walter H.

- However, in the 1891 census he is shown as being married to a Jane, not Lavinia, although she was born in Milborne Port, same as shown for Lavinia in the other two census returns.

I haven't been able to find a birth registration for Lavinia Thorne, so I'm wondering if I'm barking up completely the wrong tree??!!

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Re: James Henry Fiander b 1864
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 26 May 16 21:31 BST (UK) »
What about the ages, are they the same as well? It could be as simple as Jane being Lavinia's middle name and the one that she was commonly known as.
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Re: James Henry Fiander b 1864
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 26 May 16 22:24 BST (UK) »
Hi all. 1891 Jane 28 1901 Lavinia 40 1911 Livinia 52 all Milborne Port
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Re: James Henry Fiander b 1864
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 26 May 16 22:37 BST (UK) »
And yet when she dies her yob is 1852. ::)

There's a possible marriage for Alfred THORNE and L*vinia PENNY 1872 Wincanton.

She seems to have been born abt 1852 Wincanton.

Can't find her/them in 1881 of course.

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Re: James Henry Fiander b 1864
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 26 May 16 22:51 BST (UK) »
Here's that one's birth

Births Jun 1852
Penny    Lavenia       
Wincanton    5c   568
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Re: James Henry Fiander b 1864
« Reply #5 on: Friday 27 May 16 01:12 BST (UK) »
1861 Census shows her as Lavera (as transcribed) Penny, dau. of William and Amelia, born 1852 Milborne Port.

So, is looking as if she was a widow when she married James Henry Fiander and that she lopped some years off her age since she was some 12 years older than him!

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Re: James Henry Fiander b 1864
« Reply #6 on: Friday 27 May 16 10:55 BST (UK) »
As said earlier 1871 she is LEVENA Penny born  c 1853 Milborne Port, Somerset, living with her Parents. 

There is a Alfred THORNE age 18 living next door with his Family.

But 1881 this Alfred is married to a Maria, same Occp Glover

Marriage Reg  for Alfred James Thorne 1877, Maria Abbott on same page

1891 Maria is Widowed

Death Reg. Alfred James Thorne 1890 age 39
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Re: James Henry Fiander b 1864
« Reply #7 on: Friday 27 May 16 11:17 BST (UK) »
Marriage

Jul/Aug/sep 1972
Wincanton
5c 805

Lavinia Penny  / Alfred Thorne on same page

Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: James Henry Fiander b 1864
« Reply #8 on: Friday 27 May 16 13:03 BST (UK) »
I wonder if he married Lavinia, they broke up and he remarried then died.

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