Look-up request for John Horrobin

[Isobell21]

My g- grandfather John Horrobin born 1841-42 was married to Mary Jane Foden in 1864,Manchester Cathedral.
His father is documented as Joseph.
John is a carter,he is in the 1891 census living in Bradford,Manchester.
His eldest son is Joseph.His daughter Alice Ann Horrobin is my grandmother,his youngest son was Abraham.
I have not been able to find John Horrobin's birth certificate,even though the trail is
 Joseph to John to Joseph the eldest son of John.
I am hoping there is someone who could do a look-up for me.

Isobell King

[JJen]

Hi,

The marriage cert records John's age as 21 and therefore born c.1843.

There is a birth of a John Horrobin -
q3 1843, Manchester
Vol 20 Page 533

This could be worth looking at 

JJ

[groom]

Did you mean to put this in the Durham forum?

A tree on Ancestry has his birth as March quarter 1841 Manchester Volume   20 Page   659

[JJen]

There is a marriage of a Richard Horobin (20) to a Mary Sweeney-
15 Dec 1861 Manchester (Cathedral)
Father - Joseph Horobin, Dresser
Wits - Elizabeth Clarke and John Horobin.

It would appear that Richard is a sibling of John as their father's name and occupation is the same on the above marriage cert and that of the John you are researching.

JJ

[JJen]

Possible 1851 -

Joseph Horobin   70
Richard Horobin   son u 30
Ann Horobin   Daughter In Law widow 37
Richard Horobin   9
John Horobin   7
Grace Mathews   31
Ann Mathews   10
John Mathews   7

HO107 Piece 2226 Folio 604 Page 39

JJ

[JJen]

1861 for the same family, however Richard and Ann are now recorded as married -

Richard Horabin   mar 47
Ann Horabin   mar 47
Richard Horabin   20
John Horabin   17
Elizabeth Horabin   8
Elizabeth Townley   60

RG 9 Piece 2946 Folio 90 Page 11

JJ

[JJen]

1841 (as transcribed  ) -

Joseph Horroling   30
Ann Horroling   25
Richard Horroling   2 Mo
HO107 Piece 577 Book 25 Folio 40 Page 38, Stone Street, Manchester.

All born in County

Looking at the image, Joseph's occupation could be 'Dresser' perhaps someone could look at the image to clarify the occupation please?

JJ

[JJen]

There is a death of a Joseph Horabin -

q3, 1847, Manchester
Vol 20 Page 842

The website www.lancashirebmd.org.uk  records the age of the above person as 39 and the Sub District as Ancoats (same as the 1841 previously posted). Also the ages of people over 15 years old were usually rounded down to the nearest 5 years. So I'm of the opinion that the death in 1847 is that of the Joseph on the 1841.

JJ

[JJen]

On Lancashire BMD there is a birth of a Richard Horrobin 1841, Ancoats and a John Horrobin 1843, both show their mother's name as Gregory.

From the 1861 previously posted there is a daughter of Richard and Ann called Elizabeth born c. 1853.
On Lancashire BMD her birth is recorded in 1852, Sub District London Road (same as 1861) mother's surname as Gregory  .

JJ