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Langford family of Edmonton who emigrated from Tryddyn, Flintshire
« on: Tuesday 31 May 16 16:01 BST (UK) »
This is a message for Sandra who seems so knowledgeable & has had wonderful answers.
I'm searching the Langford family of Edmonton who emigrated from Tryddyn, Flintshire in N Wales & have found loads, more than I expected, but am stuck now on births & deaths for these people.

Edward William Langford emigrated 1st in 1906 & I've found him on passenger lists & wonderful info about the family on the Alberta Homestead Records, living nr Red Deer.  I've found 5 children for him but wonder if he had more & who did they marry & when & what children did they have.  I found he & his wife moved in later years to live in Edmonton probably because he had brothers & a sister there & maybe some of his own children moved there?? Also found their deaths on an online grave site. Edw lived to be 90 & Ellen his wife to 95, all that hard work homesteading certainly did them good & they lived in a house 18'x14', the size of the family room in my home now!

However I have not had such good results for his siblings who emigrated after him.

His sister Kate [Katherine]married in Wales to a George Roberts, saddler & he emigrated 1st in 1912 & then Kate, sister Hannah, unmarried, later married Bert Hart & had a son Hubert, brother Walter, bricklayer & wife Elizabeth, married in Wales,& brother David Owen, wheelwright & his wife Maggie, also married in Wales, all emigrated together on the Megantic in 1913.   I really have not had much luck finding their children & grandchildren.  I did however find that David O died 5 years after emigrating to Edmonton, aged 35 & he had a daughter Dillis [Dilys] & a 6 month unnamed son in 1916.  Did his wife eventually remarry??   What children & grandchildren did Walter & Elizabeth have? Kate & George Roberts had a son Bryn who died aged 11 1/2 I know that from the family & another son David Ivor, called Ivor. 

However I'm stuck now with finding much of what they did after they got to Edmonton.

I'd really appreciate anything you can help me with or direct me to look at myself.   I use Ancestry worldwide which is where I've got all my info from, but have not found Family Search any good for Edmonton.  Thank you so much.     Amberly.
Roberts,Guilsfield area, Mont.    Beattie, Welshpool, Mont         Newill, Welshpool & Shrops.      Gwyther, London.                    Cureton, Shrops & London.       Whitfield, Shrops.                        Dickin, Shrops & Mont.               Barker, London.

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Re: Re: Why people emigrated to Canada in early 20th Centruy
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 31 May 16 17:04 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Thank you for those kind words.  Hopefully a few more "chatters" will join in finding the information you would like.  If you could give a few birth dates for the siblings it would help us  ???

Perhaps an e-mail to Edmonton public library might throw up obituaries for Edward and Ellen and name some relatives  ???  Always worth a try  ;)

http://www.epl.ca/

For information purposes - Although you have this info already, will post so that others can hopefully join in.

1921 Red Deer Alberta -

Edward Langford    46 Born Wales. Parents Born Wales.
Ellena Langford   40 Born England.
Ella Langford   15 Born Wales.
John Langford   13 Born Alberta.
Edward Langford   11 Born Alberta.
David Langford   9 Born Alberta.
Glayds Langford   1 Born Alberta.

Edward W Langford is buried at Westlawn Memorial Gardens  Edmonton Edmonton Census Division
Alberta - 1965 - as per FIND A GRAVE

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=148931908&ref=acom

and his wife Ellen passed away 1975

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=langford&GSiman=1&GScid=2169828&GRid=148931909&

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Re: Re: Why people emigrated to Canada in early 20th Centruy
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 31 May 16 17:19 BST (UK) »
There was a border crossing Canada to the USA for David George Langford born 1911 Alta Canada - aged 23 years - Port of Arrival Sweet Grass, Montana on the 23 July 1934. Father Edward W Langford -  David was going to a George Graves in Chicago Illinois -  1914 Sherman Avenue Evanston Illinois - occupation farrier.

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David George Langford born 1911 passed away 1987 -

Burial: Darwell Cemetery  Darwell Whitecourt Census Division Alberta.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=120454580&ref=acom

I would think think was his wife Dorothy Langford buried in the same cemetery - born 1915 passed away 1998 - Dorothy maiden surname Helm.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=langford&GSiman=1&GScid=2370818&GRid=120454579&

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Re: Re: Why people emigrated to Canada in early 20th Centruy
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 31 May 16 17:27 BST (UK) »
I believe this to be John Owen Langford born 1907 and passed away 2005 -

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Burial Dungannon Cemetery  Clyde Whitecourt Census Division Alberta.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=93663552&ref=acom

wife  Lila Langford 1913 - 1999

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=93663553

Listed on the Daily Times Obit Index -

http://obits.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/obit.cgi?Surname=LANGFORD%2C%20John%20Owen&type=Keyword

http://albertagenealogy-research.ca/Data/Papers/1995-1999EJ/1995-1999EJIndexPage297.html

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Re: Re: Why people emigrated to Canada in early 20th Centruy
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 31 May 16 17:29 BST (UK) »
The obituary for John mentions those children who appeared on census up until 1921. 

Published in The Edmonton Journal from Mar. 29 to Mar. 31, 2005 -

John Owen Langford -  October 6th, 1907-March 26th, 2005 "A Great Musician" On 26 March 2005 John Owen Langford of Westlock, formerly of Clyde, Alberta passed away peacefully at the age of 97 1/2 years. John spent his entire life making people happy with music. etc etc

John was predeceased by his son Jack, wife Lila, grandson Victor, brothers Edward and Dave and sisters Ella and Gladys.

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/edmontonjournal/obituary.aspx?n=john-langford&pid=3350564

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Re: Re: Why people emigrated to Canada in early 20th Centruy
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 31 May 16 17:42 BST (UK) »
This could be the grandson mentioned in the above obituary - Victor Donald Langford, grandson of John, son of Jack Langford (also deceased) - names his mother and step-father - plus siblings.

Victor Donald Langford On Sunday, August 17, 2003 Victor Langford of Edmonton passed away at the age of 40 years after a courageous battle with brain cancer - etc etc.,

Published in The Edmonton Journal on Aug. 19, 2003

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/edmontonjournal/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=157387447

Listed on the Daily Times Obituary Index

Victor Donald Langford -  40 years -  Edmonton AB; Edmonton J; 2003-8-19; laurajt

http://obits.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/obit.cgi?Surname=ab&type=Keyword&Start=119650

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 31 May 16 18:09 BST (UK) »
Fabulous, what more can I say?   The posts are coming in faster than I can read them but I'm sure they are all correct.     Great idea to contact the library, never thought of that. 
The birth dates for the siblings are Kate Roberts nee Langdon & her husband George both born in 1885.
Hannah b 1890 & married Bert Hart in Edmonton.
Walter b 1888 & wife Elizabeth b 1889.
David Owen b 1884, d 1918 [his gravestone reads "late of Tryddyn, Wales"  & his wife Maggie b 1886. I wonder if she remarried????
All this info is wonderful, thank you so much.
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 31 May 16 18:35 BST (UK) »
You're very welcome - pleased to help  ;) A little relaxation after another funeral  :'( :'(

Canadian Attestation Papers (2 pages) for George Roberts born 25 January 1886 - wife Kate Roberts - address in 1916 - 7603 - 90 th Avenue Edmonton - occupation harness maker - 151 st Overseas Batt CEF.  These files are in the process of being digitalised and will contain lots more pages of info - at the moment  - Latest box digitized: Box 4810 and Jellyman surname.

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=613528

https://thediscoverblog.com/category/digitization-2/

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 31 May 16 18:37 BST (UK) »
1921 census shows George and Kate with a son - Strathcona Alberta

George Roberts   35
Kate Roberts   55 (age for Kate was transcribed incorrectly should be 35)
George Roberts   5 Born Alta.

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