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Church of Ireland in Lack, Co Fermanagh
« on: Thursday 02 June 16 06:41 BST (UK) »
Charles Maurice Stack was said to be the vicar of this church 1851-1877 before becoming the Bishop of Clogher.  Charles Maurice England was born about 1854 and should probably have been baptized in Seagoe or Knocknamuckley, Co Armagh.  The record is not there.  The man did not list his father on his marriage record.  He is not listed in an 1857 census for Knocknamuckley, but lives there after his marriage in 1880. He appears to be from a Co. Armagh family named England, but no Co Armagh England is named anything remotely like Charles or Maurice.  Would anyone be able to see if he was named after Rev Stack and baptized at the Lack church?  If so,  I would be very interested in knowing who his parents were and why they might have been there.

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Re: Church of Ireland in Lack, Co Fermanagh
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 June 16 08:20 BST (UK) »
Charles Maurice Stack, Archdeacon of Clogher, was elected by both orders of clergy and laity, obtaining over two-thirds majority. He was cons, on June 20,th, 1886, in Armagh Cathedral by Primate Knox, assisted by the Bps. of Meath, Ossory and Kilmore.- Dr. Wm. Reeves Was at the same time cons. Bp. of Down and Connor and Dromore. The new Bishop of Clogher Was the son of Rev. Edward S. (see Derryvullan Curates) and J.P. for Cos. Tyrone and Fermanagh (by Tempe., dau. of Rev. Walter
Bagot, R. of Monasterevah). He Was b. at Tubrid, near Kesh, in 1825. Ed. at Foyle Coll. and at the School for the Sons of the Irish Clergy, ent. T.C.D. July 2nd, 1842, B.A. and Div. Test. (2), 1848, M.A. 1858, B.D. and
D.D. 1875, ord. D. 1848, P. 1849 (Killaloe), C. Badoney Upper 1848-9, V. Lack 1849-71, R. Tydavnet 1871-3, R. Monaghan and A.rchd.of Clogher 1873-86. He "Was of the Evangelical School, yet in many respects Was a strong Churchman and resolutely opposed the revision of the Prayer Book. He strongly supported the Spanish Reform Movement, assisting in the consecration of Senor Cabrera as Bishop, which did not make him popular with some High Churchmen. He married, 2ist November, 1859, Margaret Jane, elder dau. of Daniel Eccles Auchinleck, of Crevenagh, County Tyrone, and had issue (i) Edward Churchill, J.P., F.R.C.S.I., of Burton-on -Trent, b. 25th November, 1860, m. ist June, 1887, Susan Masfen, and has issue (a) Charles Maurice, b. 17th March, 1888; (b) John Masfen, b.28th August, 1889 ; (c) Wm. Auchinleck. (2) Rev. Charles Maurice see Prebs. Kilskeery. (3) Rev. Walter Auchinleck see Muckross. (4) Rev. William Bagot see Magheraculmoney ; and a dau. Elizabeth Mary, d. 26th July, 1879, aged 17. Abp. Benson speaks with appreciation of the Bishop in his Diary when on a visit to Ireland before his death. He retired from the See in December, 1902, and lived at Ardess. He presented a new Pulpit to Clogher Cathedral, which bears the inscription " To the Glory of God and in love for the Diocese, the gift of the Right Reverend Charles Maurice Stack, Bishop of Clogher, 1886-1903." He d. at Ardess, January gth, 1914, and was bur. at Cappagh, Omagh. His wid. d. January 2nd, 1915. A carved oak Pulpit and Prayer Desks were dedicated to his memory by many friends in Tubrid Church, and an East Window in Lack Church, by his four sons.
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Re: Church of Ireland in Lack, Co Fermanagh
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 June 16 08:24 BST (UK) »
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John Stack, coll. Nov. 14 (D.R.) Son of Edward S., "Agricola," b. in Co. Cork, ed. by Mr. Stack, ent. T.C.D. Nov. 3, 1777, aged 17, Sch. 1780, B.A. 1782, Fell. 1784, M.A. 1786, B.D. & D.D. 1803. He Was R.
Derryvullen 1791-1809, m. (M.L. Aug. 17, 1792) Elizabeth Barker, of Timolin. 3 of his sons ent. T.C.D., viz., (i) (Rev.) Edward William, ent. July 3, 1809, aged 16, B.A. 1814, became R. Graigue (Leighl.) ; (2)
William, b. in Co. Perm., ent. T.C.D. July 7, 1823, aged 17, B.A. 1828 ; (3) (Rev.) Thomas, b. in Co. Tyrone, ent. T.C.D. July 5, 1830, aged 16, ed. by Mr. Turpin, Sch. 1833, B.A. 1836, Fell. 1838, M.A. 1839, Reg- proi Greek, 1855, Sen. Fell.' 1869, m. (i) Anne Eliza, dau. of Lieut .-Col. Gilbert Elliott ; she d: 28 Mar., 1854 '> w. (2) July 4, 1861, Anne Vigors, dau. of Captain Edwin Richards, R.N., and had issue ; d. Feb. 16, 1896. Rev. John S. d. in 1813 aged 52. In his Will, made and proved in 1813, he mentions his nephews, Edward and Tom ; his eldest son, Edward, " to be ordained," his other sons, John, William, Henry " to go to the Navy," and Maurice " has the promise of a place in India." Pub. : A Short System of Optics, &c.

He d. Sep. 28, 1888, aged 71. (See I. E.G. Oct. 1888) A brass tablet in Clogher Cath. erected to his memory is inscribed : " In memory of William Richey Bailey, D.D., Rector of Monaghan, 1864-74, Rector of Clogher 1874-1885, Rector of Killesher, 1885-1888. Obiit 1888."
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Re: Church of Ireland in Lack, Co Fermanagh
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 June 16 08:25 BST (UK) »
According to PRONI's list-

C.I. Lack or Colaghty (Clogher diocese)
MIC1/37; CR/1/100- Baptisms, 1835-1915; marriages, 1844; accounts, 1835-44; vestry minutes, 1852-70; preachers’ book, 1858-68.
In local custody- Marriages, 1845-; burials, 1874-; registers of vestrymen, 1870-; preachers’ books, 1870-.
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/sites/default/files/publications/Guide_to_church_records.pdf

If no father names on marriage certificate then it's more than likely he was illegitimate.

1901 and 1911 both say born Co.Armagh-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Carrowbrack/Knocknamuckly/1027778
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Carrowbrack/Knocknamuckly/298246
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Re: Church of Ireland in Lack, Co Fermanagh
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 02 June 16 08:28 BST (UK) »
1923. Charles Maurice Stack, coll May 9, insta. Sep 5 (D.R.), 2nd son of Bp. Chas. M. Stack (see Bishops of Clogher) b. 6 Sep., 1865 T.C.D. B.A. 1887, Div. Test. 1888, M.A. 1890, ord. D. 1888, P. 1889, DoWn > c - Bally- money (Connor) 1889-91, R. Derryvullan 1892-1902, V. Magheraclooney With St. Patrick's, Ardagh from, 1902, m. 7 May, 1901, Anna Kathleen, dau. of Rev. T. L. F. Stack, of Mullaghmore, Co. Tyrone, and has issue
(i) Marcia Elizabeth Margaret, m. ; (2) Kathleen Tempe ; (3) Mary ; (4)
Meta Dorothea ; (5) Isa Molua.

Pub. :

Ireland's Apostle. A Fiction. Adapted for Service of Song, Dublin,
Charles, 1894, 3lpp.
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Re: Church of Ireland in Lack, Co Fermanagh
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 02 June 16 08:32 BST (UK) »
Edward Stack was C., and up to 1822 ( Ves. B.)
He was the son of William S., b. in Cork, ent. T.C.D. Feb. 6, 1792, aged 17, ed. by Mr. Pasley, grad. B.A. 1797. He was Chaplain of Vaughan School 1823-57. He m. Tempe, dau. of Rev. Walter Bagot, R. of
Monasterevan, and Preb. of Harristown, Kildare, and had issue, 10 sons and 3 daus.
viz. (1) William, b. Mar. 14, 1810, in Co. Ferm., ed. by Mr. Miller, ent. T.C.D. Nov. 7,
1825, B.A. 1831, ord. P. (Oss.), Nov. 16, 1834, C. Magheraculmoney 1835-7 ; m. his
cousin, Martha Bagot, at Fonstowri, Jan. 28, 1837, and went out in 1837 as one of the
1st three missionaries, under S.P.G., to N.S. Wales, then a penal colony without a church
and was placed in charge of West Maitland, a large town, composed chiefly of felons
transported from the British Isles, in a state of the grossest demoralisation, a small
minority only having any fear of God, or love of truth ; here he remained till 1848 ;
was in charge of Campbelltown 1849-56, Incnmbent of Balmain 1856-71, also Canon of
Sydney Cathedral, and was the means of getting churches and schools built in these
districts. He died as the result of the upsetting of a coach, June 14, 1871. His issue
live in Australia ; (2) Walter Bagot, b. Sep. 4, 1813, bap. Sep. 12, was a doctor in George-
town, Demara, m. and had issue ; one of his sons lives with his family in Australia ;
he d. Oct. 4, 1858 ; (3) Richard, b. Mar. 5, 1815, bap. Mar. 19 ; ed. by Mr. Smith, ent.
T.C.D. Nov. 4, 1833, B.A. 1841, became C. of St. Peter's, Dublin ; was m., d. at Rath-
mines, Feb. 21, 1851, of fever contracted in slums of Dublin ; (4) Edward, b. Feb. 10>
1817, bap. Mar. 9, d. Dec. 3, 1834 ; (5) Thomas, b. Sep. 19,1818, bap. Oct. 25 ; became an
Army Surgeon, and was shot through the heart while attending wounded in the open as
the storming of Jhansi, April 3, 1857 ; (6) George John Bagot, b. Jan. 26, 1820, took
service with the East India Co., d. of fever at Kurrachee after having taken part in the
conquest of Scinde, first as Political Attache, afterwards in Military Command Dec. 9,
1853 ; was m. and had issue ; (7) John, b. Dec. 20, 1821, d. in California, Sep. 1, 1859 ; (8)
Maurice Charles, b. Nov. 6, 1823, cl. Aug. 27, 1824 ; (f>) Charles Maurice, b. Aug. 23,
1826, became Bishop of Clogher. See Bishops ; (10) Christopher, b. Jan. 30, 1830, d.
Mar. 1830 ; and (1) Jane, b. Oct. 16, 1800, d. May 21, 1826 ; (2) Elizabeth, b. Nov. 24,
1811, bap. Deo. 22, d. June 1, 1863 ; (3) Tempo Bagot, b. Sep. 19, 1827, d. May 8, 1860 ;
Bev. Edward S. d. at Omagh in the 84th year of his age in Nov., 1857 ; and his wife
d. at Tydavnet Rectory, Jan. 3, 1873, in her 90th year. Both were bur. at Cappagh,
near Omagh. (Stack Family Bible : Digest of S.P.G. Records, pp. 402, 901 ; Par. Beg.)
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Re: Church of Ireland in Lack, Co Fermanagh
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 02 June 16 16:40 BST (UK) »
Thanks all.  I don't see a connection yet, but it sounds like it had to be from the Lack church if the vicar was in Wales earlier.  Perhaps a mention in a newspaper was caught by an expectant mother.  Knocknamuckley lists illegitimate children, but Seagoe doesn't seem to. 

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Thanks all.  I don't see a connection yet, but it sounds like it had to be from the Lack church if the vicar was in Wales earlier.  Perhaps a mention in a newspaper was caught by an expectant mother.  Knocknamuckley lists illegitimate children, but Seagoe doesn't seem to.

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Charles Maurice Stack, Archdeacon of Clogher, was elected by both orders of clergy and laity, obtaining over two-thirds majority. He was cons, on June 20,th, 1886, in Armagh Cathedral by Primate Knox,  .

The new Bishop of Clogher was the son of Rev. Edward Stack!! 

He Was b. at Tubrid, near Kesh, in 1825!

He married, 21st November, 1859, Margaret Jane, elder dau. of Daniel Eccles Auchinleck,
of Crevenagh, County Tyrone,

and had issue
(i) Edward Churchill, J.P., F.R.C.S.I., of Burton-on -Trent, b. 25th November, 1860,
(2) Rev. Charles Maurice Stack
(3) Rev. Walter Auchinleck Stack
(4) Rev. William Bagot Stack
and
a dau. Elizabeth Mary, d. 26th July, 1879, aged 17.
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