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SPEECHLEY/COLES Marriage
« on: Friday 03 June 16 09:12 BST (UK) »
Folks,
George Speechley and Lucy Coles baptise Judith Elizabeth Speechley in Yaxley in 1832,by 1834 George marries Sarah Dent and has a further eight children.I have not been able to find a marriage to Lucy nor her death.Judith,my great grandmother, uses the surname Coles and marries in 1854 before moving to Australia.
Any help appreciated.
Eric
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Re: SPEECHLEY/COLES Marriage
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 June 16 09:49 BST (UK) »
There's no such marriage on Hunts Marriage Index. Have you checked Judith's baptism entry to see if she might have been illegitimate as she used her mother's maiden name?
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: SPEECHLEY/COLES Marriage
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 June 16 10:14 BST (UK) »
Her baptism shows both parent's names.Might have to expand search area.
Thanks,
Eric
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Re: SPEECHLEY/COLES Marriage
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 June 16 11:03 BST (UK) »
That in itself is unusual, unless all other baptisms at around that time also show the mother's full maiden name. I think she was probably illegitimate and her mother either died as Lucy Coles or married someone else.
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: SPEECHLEY/COLES Marriage
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 June 16 11:39 BST (UK) »
I agree.
1841 she is down as Judith Cole Speechley
1851 Judith Coles

Lucy COLES was Baptised 22 May 1808, St Peter, Yaxley, Mother ELIZTH Coles
(FreeREG)

Possible Burial;
ELIZABETH Coles 16 April 1816 same Church age 43 (birth c 1773)
(FreeREG)

There is a possible Marriage;
Lucy COLE/John SMITH, 20 March 1833, Bluntisham Cum Earith, Huntingdon

1841 Census in Bedfordshire;
John Smith, 30, Ag Lab
Lucy Smith, 30
Maria Smith, 6
James Smith, 4
Charles Wright, 20
Only John is born in County

1851 Lucy Smith is born c 1808 Gt Staughton, Huntingdonshire, England

Just my thoughts on this :)
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Re: SPEECHLEY/COLES Marriage
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 June 16 11:46 BST (UK) »
I looked for Speechley Baptisms 10yrs either side of Judith Elizabeth.

The only other one with a Mothers maiden name noted was illegitimate;
William Nightingale Speechley SPEECHLEY, 03 Aug 1823 St Peyter, Yaxley, to William Speechley/Mary Nightingale
Base born. William Speechley reputed father.
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Re: SPEECHLEY/COLES Marriage
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 June 16 02:19 BST (UK) »
Illegitimacy seems to be the likely situation.I have other couples who have baptised children in neighbouring parishes to avoid scrutiny but these two seem to have copped it on the chin.
Thank you both,
Eric
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Re: SPEECHLEY/COLES Marriage
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 30 October 16 03:22 GMT (UK) »
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Re: SPEECHLEY/COLES Marriage
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 30 October 16 13:06 GMT (UK) »
Hello Yaxley bapts 17.7.1832, Speechley/Coles, Judith Elizabeth,baseborn daughter
of George Speechley and Lucy Coles, of Yaxley.