George Back & Adah Spilsted

[Lucy2]

Hi Bob

... just confirming for you that the address (of daughter) in Adah's death notice, should read as number 97 Daniell Street (not 87 as is shown in your earlier posting.) 

The HOFFMAN's lived at that (Newtown) address for many years.   His occupation was "tailor" - though he went on to be a "factory manager" (presumably a clothing factory?) at Levin, (Manawatu district) in the mid 1940's.  By 1949 they were living again at 97 Daniell Street, Wellington.

    ~  Lu

[Janette]

Do you have the death certificate for Ada BACK, to account for her children?

Hi Bob,

If you are going to purchase from NZ BDM's it pays to purchase "printouts" these are a photocopy of the entry in the register and often have more information that a certificate which is a legal document,also you can order them online and have them emailed to you.

Cheers Janette

[AMBLY]

This is reiterating what has been posted - but typed all up the detail: so.....

Alice May BACK
Bernard Carl HOFFMAN, a Tailor
Married 1913
1919: Both at: Paris Street, Waitara, Waitomo,  (May Alice)
1919: Both at: Mangorei Road (Lower Mangorei), Taranaki
1928: Both at:Cowling Road, New Plymouth, Taranaki (Alice May)
1935: Bernard at: Wallace Place, New Plymouth
1935: Alice May at: Seaview Road, Westtown, New Plymouth, married
1938: Both at: 97 Daniell Street, Wellington South
1946: Both at Montgomery Street Levin. Bernard: Factory Manager
1949: Both at:97 Daniell Street, Island Bay, Wellington . Bernard: Cutter
1954: Both at: 97 Daniell Street, Island Bay, Wellington. Bernard: Cutter
1957: Both at: 97 Daniell Street, Island Bay, Wellington. Bernard: Manager
1963: Both at:97 Daniell Street, Island Bay, Wellington . Bernard: Manager
1969: Both at:97 Daniell Street, Island Bay, Wellington . Bernard: Manager
1972: Both at:97 Daniell Street, Island Bay, Wellington . Bernard: Retired
1978: Both at:Bernard: 97 Daniell Street, Island Bay, Wellington Retired
1978: Bernard only: 95 Lewis Place, Palmerston North, Retired
1981: Bernard only: 5/734 Main Street, Palmerston North, Retired.

Alice May died 1978, buried  Kelvin Grove Cemetery
Bernard Carl died 1987,  recorded in Kelvin Grove Cemetery
Cemetery Search
http://www.pncc.govt.nz/services/onlineservices/cemetery-and-cremation-search/

THOMAS GRIGGS & SON LTD was the funeral Director for them both. They are now known as  The The Lychway. If you contact them, they may hold the records still, and from the funeral card, will tell you their details (parents, siblings, children, grandchildren etc)
http://thelychway.co.nz/

Cheers
AMBLY

[Lucy2]

Do you have the death certificate for Ada BACK, to account for her children?

Hi Bob ... just wanted to point out, that unlike (some) Australian death certificates, the only information contained on a New Zealand death record (printout) in respect of children of Adah BACK, will be those who are alive at the time of her death.  Further, -  the "Living Issue" section of the d/c records only the sex and current age of the living children.   [You may want to save your $$$  ?   ]

Adah's funeral notice records her children (... and grandchildren) by name.   Had any children predeceased her, it seems likely they might have been mentioned in such a notice ?
Cannot see in NZ Births additional children born to Adah (Ada) and George ?

    ~  Lu

[wivenhoe]

SMH 17 Aug 1907  funeral of John SPILSTED
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/14904926?
..............Mr and Mrs EVANS and Mr and Mrs BACK of New Zealand

Witnesses at marriage of Ada SPILSTED and George BACK, Sydney 1888.......
Henry EVANS, Elizabeth Harriett EVANS

NSW Index  marriage
1074 / 1874 Elizabeth SPILSTEAD   m. Henry EVANS     @ Sydney

[Lucy2]

I am hoping for some more additional information on the lives of George Back & Adah Spilsted, George & Ada married in Sydney, Australia had two children a boy and a girl and emigrated to New Zealand finish out the rest of these lives.

Hi Bob

It appears that George and Adah (Ada) were living in New Zealand from at least 1900 when they first show on an electoral roll in the Taranaki region. 
Their addresses are shown differently - 1900 - he's a bricklayer at Queen Street;  Adah - domestic duties, address:  Young Street.  (I wouldn't read too much into that - sometimes a place of work was given as an address. )    By 1914 the couple are at Queen Street, Waitara (- Waitara is a short distance from New Plymouth.)

As to "emigration to New Zealand" their journey wouldn't have been classified as such.    Both George (of English birth) and Australian-born Adah, were deemed to be British subjects and therefore were free to come and go between NZ and AUS.    [It's possible that they moved to NZ to be closer to family already here ?]

   ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

SMH 17 Aug 1907  funeral of John SPILSTED
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/14904926?
..............Mr and Mrs EVANS and Mr and Mrs BACK of New Zealand

Witnesses at marriage of Ada SPILSTED and George BACK, Sydney 1888.......
Henry EVANS, Elizabeth Harriett EVANS

NSW Index  marriage
1074 / 1874 Elizabeth SPILSTEAD   m. Henry EVANS     @ Sydney

Good finds, wivenhoe.   

[I think possibly the 1907 funeral notices may just have referred to only Mr and Mrs BACK being "from New Zealand" ? ]

Elizabeth Harriette EVANS (known as Lizzie) died Sydney on 9 July 1919.

"SMH" ("Sydney Morning Herald") - 10 July 1919 - page 5, carried a number of funeral notices from SPILSTED family members and others.

   ~  Lu

[moamabob]

 a big thank you to all for the time & effort in researching  George Back & Adah Spilsted for me, it shines  some light into a dark corner  of the Spilsted family for me.
again Thank you.

[minniehaha]

Hello Bob,

I don't think this has been covered?.....

This appears to be the death of Zelda nee Hoffmann. Date of birth checks out with the entry shown in reply # 3.

1989/47037   Mitchell   Zelda May   28/5/1915   74Y

Her probated will:

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=24788183


Minniehaha.