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Re: Ship "Minerva" with 300 passengers wrecked c1852-1853
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 11 June 16 09:18 BST (UK) »
Found this link may be of  use....

https://familysearch.org/wiki/en/England_Seamen_Records_(National_Institute)

May have to order the film or check out local LDS....
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Re: Ship "Minerva" with 300 passengers wrecked c1852-1853
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 11 June 16 13:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks last couple of posts.
Was warned on a previous search some time ago that to try research into the EICS was almost impossible.
Am willing to try if anyone has clues how. ..?
Meanwhile try to find more wrecks of MINERVA that could turn out to be the right one. 
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Re: Ship "Minerva" with 300 passengers wrecked c1852-1853
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 11 June 16 13:05 BST (UK) »
That link I posted didn't seem to go where I wanted it to. Was trying to get this to show:

East India Company Merchant Records
HEIC owned or chartered many merchant ships for its trading activities and there are many records of them, their voyages, officers and occasional crew lists. They are listed in the EIC directories, under the Bengal, Bombay and Madras Marine Establishments respectively, and in Lloyd’s Register from 1778-1833, and their movements can be found in Lloyd’s List. The East India Company also had warships; these were known as the Bombay Marine until 1830 when the name changed to Indian Navy until it was abolished in 1863. In 1877 a new Indian Marine came into being which was renamed the Royal Indian Navy in 1935. Herber has a brief summary and recommends Baxter (1990) for full details of the HEIC’s records. There are 36 listings for HEIC on the FamilySearch Catalog under GREAT BRITAIN - MERCHANT MARINE.
A few examples include:
Bengal marine civil and marine casualties 1824-1864.
Bengal Pilot Service Papers 1796-1880.
Bombay marine appointments birth and baptism certificates 1822-1832.
Bombay Marine Officers 1863-1877.
East India Company cadet appointments to the marine department 1794-1830.
East India Company list of surgeons 1801-1833.
East India Company marine petitions for relief 1795-1798, 1801-1803.
East India Company merchant marine pensions 1828-1834.
Indian Navy deserters 1841-1863.
Indian Navy estates records 1820-1862.
Poplar Pension Fund papers 1788-1858. This provided pensions for officers and seamen of the EIC mercantile marine and their families.
Vessels and officers of the Bombay marine 1870-1882.
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Re: Ship "Minerva" with 300 passengers wrecked c1852-1853
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 11 June 16 13:14 BST (UK) »
Also found this:

Researching the HEIC
Sources include the HEIC collection
as well as Government of India
Records between 1858-1947, held
within the Oriental & India Office
Collection at the British Library:
Oriental & India Office Collection
The British Library
96 Euston Road
London
NW1 2DB
T: +44 (0)20 7412 7676
F: +44 (0)20 7412 7609
The collection contains log books,
crew lists, records of officers and
captains, reports of courts of inquiry,
miscellaneous letters relating to the
officers and ships, records of
cargoes, and basic details of vessels,
losses, pensions, etc.


http://www.lr.org/en/_images/213-35636_07-HEIC.pdf
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Re: Ship "Minerva" with 300 passengers wrecked c1852-1853
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 11 June 16 13:17 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all that info.
By 1862 WH ANDERSON was settled in Australia which narrows it down for searching.
There is no LDS close to me   :-\
Just saw latest post thanks,  will check it tomorrow.
Barb
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BEST, BRAME, KNIGHT, LEWIS, McSHEEHY, O'NEIL, SCHUETZE & WILKE

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BAGGALEY, BARTHOLOMEW, BOYD, CLIFTON, GALLAGHER, GEERTZ, HARBER, HARBOUR, KIRCHNER, McDONALD, MEAD, PETER, TAYLOR, YOUNG

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Re: Ship "Minerva" with 300 passengers wrecked c1852-1853
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 11 June 16 23:06 BST (UK) »
Good morning from Down Under
All of those collections appear to be likely to have the kind of information that we are looking for but seem rather out of reach from so far away. ..
Frustrating and tantalizing  :-\
Many thanks for pointing out what is "out there " for possible follow up if I can find a way to do it.
Barb
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BEST, BRAME, KNIGHT, LEWIS, McSHEEHY, O'NEIL, SCHUETZE & WILKE

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BAGGALEY, BARTHOLOMEW, BOYD, CLIFTON, GALLAGHER, GEERTZ, HARBER, HARBOUR, KIRCHNER, McDONALD, MEAD, PETER, TAYLOR, YOUNG

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Re: Ship "Minerva" with 300 passengers wrecked c1852-1853
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 12 June 16 04:40 BST (UK) »
Another account of the 1850 Minerva wrecking
 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article91919487

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It does say the Minerva is a large teak-built East Indiaman  ???
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Re: Ship "Minerva" with 300 passengers wrecked c1852-1853
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 12 June 16 05:05 BST (UK) »
This article has the Cosmopolite arriving in Australia in 1852.   Among the passengers were 5 men, the Captain and crew of the Minerva wrecked lately at Scaler's Cove.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article173062592

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Re: Ship "Minerva" with 300 passengers wrecked c1852-1853
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 12 June 16 06:57 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosball, thanks for that, it's starting to look like it might just turn out to be the Minerva that William Henry Anderson was on as the supercargo.
What I need is the crew list.....
Barb
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BEST, BRAME, KNIGHT, LEWIS, McSHEEHY, O'NEIL, SCHUETZE & WILKE

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BAGGALEY, BARTHOLOMEW, BOYD, CLIFTON, GALLAGHER, GEERTZ, HARBER, HARBOUR, KIRCHNER, McDONALD, MEAD, PETER, TAYLOR, YOUNG