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(Land) Steward, Faughanvale, Derry
« on: Wednesday 15 June 16 12:24 BST (UK) »
My GGGG Grandfather Joseph Irwin is listed as a Steward in his sons Marriage Certificate in 1862.

I presume this is a Land Steward and worked if for the owner of that land. Is there anyway of finding out if this is the case and what the land was that he worked?

I presume this was an important job, but hated by the natives that he possibly took the rent from.

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Re: (Land) Steward, Faughanvale, Derry
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 16 June 16 14:55 BST (UK) »
ive looked on find my past records but cant see anything , have asked mods if this would be better served on the derry board of irish searches .
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Re: (Land) Steward, Faughanvale, Derry
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 16 June 16 18:36 BST (UK) »
Thanks Trevor

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Re: (Land) Steward, Faughanvale, Derry
« Reply #3 on: Friday 17 June 16 21:49 BST (UK) »
To clarify a few points here-
My GGGG Grandfather Joseph Irwin is listed as a Steward in his sons Marriage Certificate in 1862.
The marriage certificate will show the groom's address at the time of the marriage but this may not be the place he was born, raised or where his family was living at the time.

I presume this is a Land Steward and worked if for the owner of that land. Is there anyway of finding out if this is the case and what the land was that he worked?
I presume this was an important job, but hated by the natives that he possibly took the rent from.

Sometimes occupations were exagerrated- a labourer might be listed as a farmer, etc. In the case of a land steward, he might have looked after a small property for the owner/lessor and in other records might be shown with a different occupation such as farmer, etc. It would only have been an 'important' job if he was looking after a large estate. Not at all sure why you mean with the remark about being hated by the natives as you've no idea where he lived/worked and thus don't know anything about the tenants.
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Re: (Land) Steward, Faughanvale, Derry
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 18 June 16 17:26 BST (UK) »
There is an earlier marriage of a Margaret Jane Erwin, Carrickhugh in 1855, where her father Joseph is described as a land steward.

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Re: (Land) Steward, Faughanvale, Derry
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 18 June 16 19:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks guys.
When I made my remark I was thinking about the "WDYTYA" where the fella went back to Derry and his ancestor was a steward and was seen to be working for "the man" and not that all popular.

Thanks again. I have a copy of the marriage cert.

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Re: (Land) Steward, Faughanvale, Derry
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 26 June 16 14:14 BST (UK) »
There is an earlier marriage of a Margaret Jane Erwin, Carrickhugh in 1855, where her father Joseph is described as a land steward.

Carrickhue is certainly in the right area-
https://www.townlands.ie/derry/faughanvale/carrickhugh/

Possibly connection?
Coleraine Chronicle, 18 Feb.1865: At the residence of his father, on the 15th inst., Edward, fourth son of Mr. Joseph Irwin, Carrickhugh, aged 19 years.
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Re: (Land) Steward, Faughanvale, Derry
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 30 June 16 17:42 BST (UK) »
Thanks for this again. Busy in work, and another few projects for friends etc. Will get around to looking into this soon.

Invaluable. Thank you.

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Re: (Land) Steward, Faughanvale, Derry
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 30 June 16 18:35 BST (UK) »
I think that Margaret Jane Erwin might be one of mine. I will check this one out.

Thanks.