Look up Joseph Jones

[madyliz]

Hi everyone
grateful for a look up on Joseph Jones b Ystradgynlais Breconshire 1827, also sister Jane Jones b 1825 Loughor Glamorgan
father also Joseph Jones both father and son were surveyors.
I have josephs marriage cert and all census from 1861 on but can't find 1841 census or births.
there is another sister on 1851 census transcribed as Jeremiah but am sure it is Jemimah b 1823 also in Loughor Glamorgan
any help I'd be grateful
thanks 

[Cas (stallc)]

1841 census HO107/1424/9/6/5
Pontardulias, Llandeilotalybont, Glynloughor
Reg district Swansea
Sarah Jones 50, land surveyor wife, born in county
Susan " 20 "
Jane  " 20 "
Jemima  " 20 "
Joseph " 15 land surveyor app, not born in county

Cas

[madyliz]

thank you cas I had got Sarah down as joseph(Father) wife but had no source to confirm it so great to have this have searched but not found it at all thanks again 

[Cas (stallc)]

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFC1-FV9 Susan bapt

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFH5-2FB Jane

[Cas (stallc)]

Possible Marriage, maybe a bit early, but only one online around date before children

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VF8M-787

By licence, personal detail in the register, Witnesses named

Possible connection https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VF8H-822

Cas

[Cas (stallc)]

http://newspapers.library.wales/search?

The Cambrian Newspaper 12th March 1842.
Marriage - On the 4th inst, at Ystradgunlais Church, Breconshire, by the Rev Timothy Davies, David Jones Esq of Cwmllynfell to Susan Fifth dau of Mr Joseph Jones land & mineral surveyor, Ystradgunlais

Marriages Mar 1842
JONES David     Neath    26   508    
Same page - JONES Susan       

1851
Ynysy Gwiail, Ystradgunlais, Neath, Glamorganshire

David Jones, Head, Married   46, Land Proprietor   Llanguicke, Glamorgan
Susan Jones, Wife, Married   30, Land Proprietor Wife   Loughor, Glamorgan
John   Jones Son   8, Scholar   Ystradgynlais, Breconshire
Margaret Jones   Daughter   6 Scholar   Ystradgynlais, Breconshire
Joseph Jones Son, 4   Ystradgynlais, Breconshire
Sarah Jones, Daughter, 1   Ystradgynlais, Breconshire
Gwenllian   Walter, Servant   Unmarried, 14, Carm

Registration district   Neath
HO107 Piece number   2464 Folio   98 Page   1

Cas

[madyliz]

Hi Cas
thank you again the childrens baptisms are great I had tried looking but obviously don't have the knack, and the newspaper is very interesting .thank you so much, will try and visit the archives next week to look up the marriage as there may be more info in there.
your a wonder  :)xx
Ill have to write a note to myself to try family org next time as well!!

[osprey]

Sarah's application to administer Joseph senior's estate after his death is on the NLW site
 
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01htc/ 

He died 13 July 1844 & was buried in Ystradgynlais parish church 16 July 1844, age noted as 62. His death announcement is in the Cambrian dated 27 July 1844.

His age at death makes the marriage found by Cas look very possible and there's also the baptism of a daughter, Elizabeth, 21 May 1809 in St Michael's Loughor.
There may have been another daughter called Jane as on the day Joseph was baptised in Ystradgynlais - 17 July 1825 - 2 daughters, Jemima & Jane, were baptised as well.

 
 

[madyliz]

hi osprey
thanks for the info, yes I do believe the marriage is correct  everything seems to point that way, I agree about Elizabeth as well. I
thanks for the death I have been trying to get to terms with the Cambrian but find it quite hard to navigate, think I need more practise!!
I haven't been able to find Josephs baptism so that is good as well I was also coming to the conclusion there are two Janes the one baptised in Loughor and on the 1851 census it shows jemima and jane born 1823 and 1825 so assume the younger Jane died in infancy as so often happens another child was then named after her at a later date. I have tried looking for baptisms etc in Ystradgynlais but no luck on free reg.
thanks for your time great stuff very grateful
Liz