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Re: Information on Mary Smith, born 1903 in Westown, Tramore, Co. Waterford.
« Reply #10 on: Monday 20 June 16 11:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Dathai. Thanks for your post. The families you show from the 1901 and 1911 censuses with relations to the Kirwan family is not my family. The post by gaffy with the link to the 1911 census for the residents of a house 3 in Garrarus (Islandikane, Waterford) is my family. I am trying to find out what happened to my father Michael's sister Johanna in later years when she got married and where she was buried as I explained in my original post since I don't have her married surname.
I appreciate your help and time.

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Re: Information on Mary Smith, born 1903 in Westown, Tramore, Co. Waterford.
« Reply #11 on: Monday 20 June 16 16:17 BST (UK) »
Bit of confusion with the names, Mary or Johanna?

You say the grave is unmarked, so it can't be found via a headstone.
And you don't know George's surname but do you know if he is buried with her or even approx when they married?
Do you know when she died?

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Re: Information on Mary Smith, born 1903 in Westown, Tramore, Co. Waterford.
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 21 June 16 16:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Sinan. It is Mary Smith. I am very sorry for my mistake in putting down Johanna in my last post.

George wasn't buried with her. My mother told me she could remember him coming back to Tramore from England just after Mary had died and leaving money to have a headstone put up on her grave at her home place. (Which never materialised.) He then returned to England.

I am afraid I can't answer any more of your questions. I don't know when she got married, how she met George or when or how she died. This is the problem of course!

Thanks for your time in replying to my post. Fenor.


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Re: Information on Mary Smith, born 1903 in Westown, Tramore, Co. Waterford.
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 21 June 16 20:28 BST (UK) »
Without her surname and/or when she died, I can't see anyway to find her grave.
The only things I can think of are
a. Other family members (try and trace children/grandchildren of siblings). Facebook perhaps or the Cemetery masses poster earlier if you can attend.
b. A death notice in a newspaper that would hopefully mention the Smith name as well. https://www.irishnewsarchive.com/
c. Very local knowledge, for example sometimes a priest will note down on a baptism who a person married, when it happens it is usually when the person marries in a different parish and sent for a letter of freedom to their home church in order to marry so contacting the church where she was baptised might be use full.

Do you know if she lived in Tramore long before she died, Tramore has a local community radio station, it has a facebook page, https://www.facebook.com/TCRfm/
Retired postal workers can be a gold mind on local families, my mother recently astounded a local historian by knowing the story of every child who wrote an essay for the folk lore collection from the local school, which died young, who they married, who moved away and so on, she is several years younger than any of those children.

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Re: Information on Mary Smith, born 1903 in Westown, Tramore, Co. Waterford.
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 23 June 16 18:41 BST (UK) »
Hi Sinann, Thanks for your help and advice. I agree without a Mary's married Surname it is going to be hard to find information. Fenor

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Re: Information on Mary Smith, born 1903 in Westown, Tramore, Co. Waterford.
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 23 June 16 19:38 BST (UK) »
I had a look in the usual sites and cross-referenced Mary Smith married to a George in Waterford and didn't find any!
O'Kane, O'Mullan: Garvagh Derry
Bowe: Currabaha ,Waterford
McManus: Aghagallon ,Antrim
McGowan: Drumshambo, Leitrim

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Re: Information on Mary Smith, born 1903 in Westown, Tramore, Co. Waterford.
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 25 June 16 19:53 BST (UK) »
O'Kane, O'Mullan: Garvagh Derry
Bowe: Currabaha ,Waterford
McManus: Aghagallon ,Antrim
McGowan: Drumshambo, Leitrim

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Re: Information on Mary Smith, born 1903 in Westown, Tramore, Co. Waterford.
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 28 June 16 11:57 BST (UK) »
Hi familyroutes, Sorry for the delay in answering. Just like to say thanks for interest and help. It looks like without her married surname I won't have any luck. Thanks again to all the people who tried to help me. Fenor.