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Re: Samuel William Scott and Ann Kershaw
« Reply #18 on: Friday 08 July 16 09:21 BST (UK) »
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Marriage
SCOTT John  born Buninyong
BORELLA Annie  Born Bald Hills
1891  Reg#8287

This certificate will name the number or hopefully the names of children both living and deceased of Annie's previous marriage.  It is possible that Samuel Wm was not born on the date he was told.  His birth was not registered and I wonder if he was actually born prior to the above marriage.  Annie and her first husband did not register any births. 

What happened to her first husband?

The marriage certificate should have the date he died.

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Re: Samuel William Scott and Ann Kershaw
« Reply #19 on: Friday 08 July 16 10:08 BST (UK) »
Will Probate file for Eliza KERSHAW, widow, d 10 Jan 1916 Clunes VIC.

Will dated 27 Sep 1915 - grand daughter Annie BORELLA gets the piano - rest of estate shared between my children Thomas KERSHAW and Eliza KERSHAW, and my grand daughter Annie BORELLA.

Ballarat Star 12 Jan 1916 p6
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/154533310?
...obit for Eliza KERSHAW.....leaves one son and vive daughters....

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Re: Samuel William Scott and Ann Kershaw
« Reply #20 on: Friday 08 July 16 10:35 BST (UK) »
Ballarat Star 12 Jan 1916 p6
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/154533310?
..obit Eliza KERSHAW....one son Mr T KERSHAW, Club Hotel, and five daughters

The Argus 9 Nov 1920 p.20
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/4572775?
........death Thomas KERSHAW...brother of...Ann (Mrs SCOTT, WA), Nellie (Mrs PARK, Sydney), Eliza, of Rainbow, uncle of Olga, Tom and Joe KERSHAW, Clunes, Annie Borella, WA    54 years

Ballarat Star 9 Nov 1920 p6
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/213375535?
...obit for Thomas KERSHAW....worked in the West for many years...on death of brother Abel KERSHAW....worked the hotel in conjunction with his niece.

Abel KERSHAW d. 1915....is Annie Borella the niece?.

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Re: Samuel William Scott and Ann Kershaw
« Reply #21 on: Friday 08 July 16 11:18 BST (UK) »
Will Probate file for Thomas KERSHAW, d. 1920, Clunes VIC - names sisters
Eliza KERSHAW  "Leura" 27 Highbury Grove Prahran
Ann SCOTT, Western Australia
Ellen PARK, NSW
Catherine Beatrice WILLIAMSON, WA

BDM WA marriage
KERSHAW Catherine B   m.  WILLIAMSON Benjamin    Black Range  5 / 1909

death
WILLIAMSON Catherine Beatrice  87 years  @ Perth  3636 / 1968
parents Abel / Eliza


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Re: Samuel William Scott and Ann Kershaw
« Reply #22 on: Friday 08 July 16 13:21 BST (UK) »
From what I have discovered so far

Ann/e Dixon or Dickson married John Scott snr.  Ann Dickson has Anna Bella 1860, David 1865, James Dickson 1861, Martha 1865, Niel 1863.  Ann Dixon has William 1857, John 1857.

John Scott jnr appears to have a first wife Mary Ann Jones who gave birth to Emma 1881, Arthur John 1883, Thomas 1887.  (still have to research this). 

 Abel Kershaw and Eliza Hitchcock married in 1861 in Victoria. They had Abel  1864,  Ellen 1866, Thomas 1868, Samuel 1870, John 1873, Eliza 1874, Margaret Lucy 1876, Maria Jane 1879, Catherine Beatrice 1881, Ann 1861. 

Ann Kershaw and father unknown gave birth to Annie Borella Kershaw 1883.  Annie Kershaw married Albert Borella 1885 in Victoria.  Haven't found record of death of Albert Borella.  Annie Borella marries Jno Scott in Victoria 1891.

John Scott and Ann Kershaw gave birth to Nellie Irene Scott 1894 East Ballarat, Leslie Neil Scott 1896 Ballarat East (died 1/8/1915 WW1 records), Margaret Lucy Scott 1901 Lawler WA (died at 5 months), Walter Charles Scott 1901 Lawler WA (died 5 months), Jack Scott 1903 Lawler WA.

My relative is Samuel William Scott (married Dorothy Weeks 1913 at Black Range WA 1913.  His WW1 records state that he was born in 1892 Ballarat.  Cemetery records show that he may have been born 1892 Sandstone WA.  Have been unable to confirm either.

Thanks everyone.  I need to get a copy of marriage cert for Samual and Dorothy to see if there is any more info available.

 

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Re: Samuel William Scott and Ann Kershaw
« Reply #23 on: Friday 08 July 16 14:05 BST (UK) »
What happened to her first husband?

The marriage certificate should have the date he died.

Cando

Albert BORELLA died in 1906 in Queensland.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/53064797

Debra  :)

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Re: Samuel William Scott and Ann Kershaw
« Reply #24 on: Friday 08 July 16 14:44 BST (UK) »
Well done, Dundee. I had just given up searching.

I have checked all the Rockie cemeteries and he isn't in any under either name.

Naughty Annie Kershaw 😉😉

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Re: Samuel William Scott and Ann Kershaw
« Reply #25 on: Friday 08 July 16 17:41 BST (UK) »
....he procured a coffin and had the body removed to Bajool, and there reported the matter by telephone to Sergeant Johnson.  He was advised in reply that an order for burial had been received from the Police Magistrate and he buried the body in the Bajool cemetery.....

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/53064584

It was almost seven years between marriages,  so probably reasonable to presume him dead.  I get the impression he disappeared soon after the marriage.  It would be interesting to see how Annie describes herself when she married John SCOTT.

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Re: Samuel William Scott and Ann Kershaw
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 09 July 16 01:45 BST (UK) »
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I need to get a copy of marriage cert for Samual and Dorothy to see if there is any more info available.

Samuel's marriage certficate will show infomation that he has been given as his birth was not registered. A birth certificate of a younger sibling should show the number and hopefully names of previous issue to the marriage and hopefully the informant was truthful.

I notice in WA you now have the option to purchase an uncertified copy of the registration for $20. :)

http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/f/fees.aspx
Birth, Death or Marriage Certificate - $35
Reduced fee - event ast least 75 years old.

Uncertified copy of a registration - $20
(Births 100 years or more, Marriages 75 years or more & Deaths 1983 back).


What happened to her first husband?

The marriage certificate should have the date he died.

Cando


Albert BORELLA died in 1906 in Queensland.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/53064797

Debra  :)


Death
1906/C3749
BORELLA Albert
Father Pietro  Mother Ellen Alfreda KEDNER

Birth
BORELLA Albert
Father Lewis  Mother Elphraida KIDNEY
26 Sep 1853
At Hobart  Reg#167/1853

Sibling
BORELLA  Female - Name Not Recorded
Father Pietro  Mother Elfrida KIDNER
6 Aug 1849
At Spring Bay  Reg#850/1849

Marriage of parents
BORELLA Pietro  28 years
KIDNER Alfreda  17 years
15 May 1849
At Sorell   Reg#708/1849
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hyl/

https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/results?qu=petro&qu=borella

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