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Lost Ives Children.
« on: Saturday 16 July 16 15:25 BST (UK) »
I have posted this on another FH web site, but some other eyes will be a bonus to see if there is anything to be found. ;)

Though not strictly Buckinghamshire, it was where they were last seen, and the father was from Great Missenden, Bucks.

Henry Ives(1822.Gt.Miss) married in 1854 @ St Pancras, to Eleanor Sophia Reynolds, (1833. Strood, Kent).

Henry Ives died in 1870, Eleanor Sophia Ives remarried to a William Hallibone in 1873.  Eleanor dies in 1875 in Lambeth.

Eleanor Ives and children last seen in the Eton Union Poorhouse in the 1871 census, @ Upton Cum Chalvey.

Children:

Henry George Ives, b1857. St Pancras. (Baptised @ St Pancras).
Thomas William Ives, b1860. St Pancras. (Baptised @ Camden).
William Peter Ives, b1862. Hatfield, Herts. (Baptised @ Addlestone, Surrey).
Eleanor Mary Ives, b1864. St Pancras. (Baptised @ Addlestone, Surrey).
Sarah Ives, b1869. Eton, Buckinghamshire. ((Baptized 21  Aug 1870,@ Upton Cum Chalvey) Mothers name only)).


Children seem to have been abducted by aliens, or adopted out.

This will be a bit of a treasure hunt, I feel.


Steve. :)
Ives, Stevens, Allen, Smith, King, Wooster, Elwood from Monks and Princes Risborough, Aylesbury, Wendover, Great Missenden, Bledlow, Horsenden, Saunderton, West Wycombe, High Wycombe, Lacey Green, Longwick, Illmer,  Hughenden, Prestwood, The Kimbles, Haslemere, Bradenham, Aston Clinton and more......!!  Plus a whole host of Oxfordshire areas.
Graham, Pimlott, Burgess from Cheshire and Lancashire area.
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Re: Lost Ives Children.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 16 July 16 15:44 BST (UK) »
When did William Hallibone die?

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Re: Lost Ives Children.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 16 July 16 16:13 BST (UK) »
If I'm correct and William Halliborne died in 1901 in Lambeth (I'm not sure if this is definitely him) then perhaps the children could be living with their stepfather?

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Re: Lost Ives Children.
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 16 July 16 16:20 BST (UK) »
William Hallibone(c1826. Hampton Lucy,Warks), in 1891 census, was in Lambeth Infirmary.

Apparently dies in J/F/M 1901. Lambeth,  as far as I've found.  Not seen in the 1901 census, so I assume he died before that was taken.

He seems to have bobbed in and out of the Workhouses between those dates.

Not found him in the 1881 census though.

Steve. :)
Ives, Stevens, Allen, Smith, King, Wooster, Elwood from Monks and Princes Risborough, Aylesbury, Wendover, Great Missenden, Bledlow, Horsenden, Saunderton, West Wycombe, High Wycombe, Lacey Green, Longwick, Illmer,  Hughenden, Prestwood, The Kimbles, Haslemere, Bradenham, Aston Clinton and more......!!  Plus a whole host of Oxfordshire areas.
Graham, Pimlott, Burgess from Cheshire and Lancashire area.
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Re: Lost Ives Children.
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 16 July 16 16:27 BST (UK) »
Could this be William in 1881?

Name: William SMITH,
Age: 57 (Estimated date of birth: 1824)
Place of birth: Hampton Lucy, Warwickshire
Relation to head: Lodger
Occupation: Agricultural labourer
Marital status: Widower
Others in household: Mary Anderton (Head)

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Re: Lost Ives Children.
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 16 July 16 16:48 BST (UK) »
Never mind, William Smith's also living there with Mary in 1901  ::)

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Re: Lost Ives Children.
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 16 July 16 17:24 BST (UK) »
Never mind, William Smith's also living there with Mary in 1901  ::)

Yes, I had seen that and another William ? ? ? in another census, with similar birth year and p.o.b. but they both ran out of steam, like you've found. :)

1881 census may hold they key for William Hallibone, and maybe the children.  But I won't hold my breath on that. ;D

Steve. :)

Ives, Stevens, Allen, Smith, King, Wooster, Elwood from Monks and Princes Risborough, Aylesbury, Wendover, Great Missenden, Bledlow, Horsenden, Saunderton, West Wycombe, High Wycombe, Lacey Green, Longwick, Illmer,  Hughenden, Prestwood, The Kimbles, Haslemere, Bradenham, Aston Clinton and more......!!  Plus a whole host of Oxfordshire areas.
Graham, Pimlott, Burgess from Cheshire and Lancashire area.
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Re: Lost Ives Children.
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 16 July 16 17:58 BST (UK) »
Well they must be there somewhere!  ;D There are several possibilities as to why we can't find them - perhaps they were recorded under an incorrect name or have been mistranscribed... we'll just have to keep looking.

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Re: Lost Ives Children.
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 16 July 16 19:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Steve

This doesn't help you find your lost Ives children, in fact it may confuse you more. ??? Were you aware that Mr Hallibone & Ellen Sophia had a son Albert Reynolds Hallibone born 8th Sept 1873 as per at least 2 trees on Ancestry, he is well documented & finishes up in Grimsby but trying to find him in 1881 seemed impossible until I stumbled upon a William IVES aged 55 born Hampton Warwickshire in Lambeth with a "wife" named Maria Ann aged 57 born Lambeth & a son Albert born 1874 also Lambeth. RG11/583/40 page 29. Surely Albert can't be Maria Ann's son & I can't see this William Ives on any other census. I just don't know if this is one big coincidence or what. :-\

Have a look & see what you think.

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