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Edward Vernon TAYLOR born 1921 Scotland
« on: Wednesday 20 July 16 00:54 BST (UK) »
Can anyone find Edward Vernon TAYLOR emigrating from Scotland? He was born 1922 in Cardross but I can't find a death for him on Scotlandspeople so thought perhaps he'd emigrated, perhaps to America.

Many thanks
Jan
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
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Re: Edward Vernon TAYLOR born 1922 Scotland
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 10:10 BST (UK) »
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Re: Edward Vernon TAYLOR born 1922 Scotland
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 11:14 BST (UK) »
Oops, sorry, birthdate is 6 July 1921
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
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Re: Edward Vernon TAYLOR born 1922 Scotland
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 14:03 BST (UK) »
Hello Jang,

Is this person still alive  ???

Regards

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Re: Edward Vernon TAYLOR born 1922 Scotland
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 22:24 BST (UK) »
That's possible, I guess, but I can't find any sign of him after 1947 when he was the informant on his uncle's death in Glasgow.
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Edward Vernon TAYLOR born 1922 Scotland
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 22:57 BST (UK) »
Can you give us his parent's names please ?

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: Edward Vernon TAYLOR born 1922 Scotland
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 23:03 BST (UK) »
Oops, sorry, birthdate is 6 July 1921

You can modify your subject heading to rectify that within 24 hrs of posting  ;)

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: Edward Vernon TAYLOR born 1922 Scotland
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 21 July 16 00:21 BST (UK) »
He was born 6 July 1921 Cardross Scotland, father Edward Vernon Taylor, (capt. Mercantile Service) and Margaret Bennie Taylor, nee Coulson.

I found references to him (as Edward Vernon Taylor) in the Merchant Navy on 24 Dec 1942 (Mary Kingsley), 24 Feb 1944 and 19 June 1944 (John A. Brown) sailing to New York. This is not his father, who died in Argentina in 1924.

I also found references to Edward Taylor and Vernon Taylor in 1937 and 1938 sailing on the Cameronia from Glasgow to New York, which are probably him.

There's a Medal Card listed for him in the Merchant Seamen WWII index.

His mother died in 1944 in Glasgow but he wasn't the informant. He was the informant in 1947 for his uncle George Coulson, giving his address as his uncle's home.

I guess he could have gone anywhere after that :-)

Jan

England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
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Re: Edward Vernon TAYLOR born 1921 Scotland
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 21 July 16 20:47 BST (UK) »
I can find a "Seaman's Pouch" for him although he is listed as E S Taylor. Every other detail, Dis A number, Date and place of birth is correct.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8150335

Seaman's Pouch's,
These records relate to individual seamen. Documents were filed together in paper envelopes known as pouches. The contents vary for single registry cards to ID Cards, photographs, letters, applications forms and other ephemera. The records cover the period 1913 to 1972 so it should cover the whole of his seagoing career.
 
The main document you need to look for is

 His  Form CRS 10

It is probably here
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C10989989

If not it should be here http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C10991187



It should contain the following information
The front page of the service entries includes the following information:
•Name •Date and place of birth
•Discharge 'A' number
•Rank or rating, with relevant certificate details
•Details of any other qualifications
•Date CRS 10 first page was created
•British Seamen's Identity Card Notations. The entries refer to correspondence and issuing of cards, certificates, applications etc. The originals in general do not survive except where they have been filed in the seaman's pouch. See below.
•Merchant Navy Establishment [licenced] Agencies (MNEA) Contracts

•The continuation pages show: A list of ships and their official numbers with date and place of engagement,
•rank or rating,
•F or H (for Foreign or Home trade voyage),
•date and place of discharge from the ship
•character grade
•National Insurance contribution code
•Registry clerk's initials and date of the entry.
•When ashore the sheet may bear the entry MNRP (Merchant Navy Reserve Pool) with date and place.

YOU CANNOT SEE THE RECORDS ONLINE
 CRS 10's are stored alphabetically in blocks of 60 names therefor you cannot access an individual seaman. CRS 10's contain sensitive personal information and I suspect, been used in the past to commit Identity Fraud. TNA take security to the higher limit when they receive requests for CRS10's. Your best bet is to visit Kew, trying to get the National Archives to search for you can be an expensive nightmare.
 The procedure is somewhat complicated but TNA staff are very helpful and you should not have any problem. After you have obtained his CRS10 you can then go on to view Crew Agreements and Logbooks it all depends how deep you wish to go with your research but one of these documents should tell you the place of leaving his last ship. If indeed he did emigrate.
 


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