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how do I work out my Clarke's Irish coat of arms
« on: Wednesday 20 July 16 07:46 BST (UK) »
Hi re coat of arms and crest.
female was a Keegan born Castlebar Mayo  c1833/35
male Clarke was born QUEENS COUNTY Mayo  c1831  died 1891 1n Staffordshire England.
son William c1855 born in Bilston Staffs.
there are so many crest etc, I don't know how I find the right one.
thanks for any info.
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Re: how do I work out my Clarke's Irish coat of arms
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 08:19 BST (UK) »
There is no such thing as a Family Coat-of-Arms!

Coats-of-Arms were awarded to an individual person.
If you can prove direct linage from an arms bearer, then you are entitled to use them.
Otherwise you have no rights to us them at all.

This from the College Of Arms:
Q. Do coats of arms belong to surnames?

A. No. There is no such thing as a 'coat of arms for a surname'. Many people of the same surname will often be entitled to completely different coats of arms, and many of that surname will be entitled to no coat of arms. Coats of arms belong to individuals. For any person to have a right to a coat of arms they must either have had it granted to them or be descended in the legitimate male line from a person to whom arms were granted or confirmed in the past.


and

Q. What is a crest?

A. It is a popular misconception that the word 'crest' describes a whole coat of arms or any heraldic device. It does not. A crest is a specific part of a full achievement of arms: the three-dimensional object placed on top of the helm.
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Re: how do I work out my Clarke's Irish coat of arms
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 08:31 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much for the quick reply.
I suppose  that is one less thing to research.
Loads of people that have crests etc on walls, do they just pick out one with the same name and country?
Thanks again,
Ricoba
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Clarke STAFFORD
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Parker WARW
Godfrey M/SEX
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Re: how do I work out my Clarke's Irish coat of arms
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 08:39 BST (UK) »
There are companies out there who offer coats-of-arms.
BUT, read what they tell you - very carefully!

They say they have a CoA "Linked to your surname" - not that you are entitled to use it.

Indeed, in Scotland it is still illegal toi use a CoA that you are not entitles to! ::) ;D
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Re: how do I work out my Clarke's Irish coat of arms
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 09:09 BST (UK) »
When you say 'use', do you mean in some sort of official capacity.
Several people I know have these things hanging in their hallway - the two families.
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Re: how do I work out my Clarke's Irish coat of arms
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 09:28 BST (UK) »
There is a Board on RootsChat for Heraldry Crests and Coats of Arms http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?board=430.0 Where this subject has been covered many times  :)
See also http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/resources/faqs

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Re: how do I work out my Clarke's Irish coat of arms
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 09:40 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the reply,
yes some friends have the 2 marriage couples crest? on them and in the middle is the date of marriage.
thanks to all,
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Re: how do I work out my Clarke's Irish coat of arms
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 09:55 BST (UK) »

male Clarke was born QUEENS COUNTY Mayo  c1831 
thanks for any info.
ricoba

On a slightly different note.
Queens County and Mayo are two different counties, he can't have been born in both.

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Re: how do I work out my Clarke's Irish coat of arms
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 10:05 BST (UK) »
I didn't notice the birthplaces  ::)

1871 clearly shows Queens County for William and Mayo for Maria.

1881 - Mayo for both.
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