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Erpingham records birth search
« on: Wednesday 20 July 16 16:32 BST (UK) »
Hi I don't know if anybody can help me I'm trying to trace my grandad, Charles William Whiley, we can't seem to trace his birth record and the closest I can find is for erpingham, volume 4b, page 75. Would anybody be able to advise if I can get hold of the certificate and how I would go about it please? Any help gratefully received. I've got his marriage and death certificate but don't think his date of birth is right on there we are estimating between 1907-1909!

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Re: Erpingham records birth search
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 16:35 BST (UK) »
You can purchase it from the GRO for £9.25 using the references you have

www.gro.gov.uk

but first have you found him on the 1911 census or the 1939 National Registration ?
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: Erpingham records birth search
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 16:53 BST (UK) »
Hi thanks I will try ordering and check those 2 thank you very much

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Re: Erpingham records birth search
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 18:47 BST (UK) »
this birth reg (which you already have)
Charles William Whiley (I believe he was born at Edgefield which falls within Erpingham reg dist
Mar qtr 1909
Erpingham
4b 75

would "fit" with this death reg
Charles William Whiley
birth jan 1909
death reg Dec qtr1971
age 62
Northumberland S
1b 1050

 there was a Charles William Whiley  b Norfolk who moved to Northumberland with his family when he was quite young

could you post the death reg you have

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Erpingham records birth search
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 19:03 BST (UK) »
There is another one who died in Liverpool district in 1976, birth date according to death index is 29 Dec 1907. Can't find a matching birth reg, probably in Q1 1908.


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I think he may have been registered in Northampton district under his mother's maiden name as parents didn't marry until after he was born.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Erpingham records birth search
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 19:58 BST (UK) »
the extra information given helps
this looks like his birth reg
Charles William Going
Mar qtr 1908
Northampton
3b 175

this looks like parents marriage reg
Jun qtr 1909
Northampton
Joseph Whiley
Jane Going
Northampton
3b 175

Charles William's death was registered in the name of Whiley (and his marriage
Charles William Whiley born 29 Dec 1907 (which fits with Mar 1908 birth reg)
died 5 Oct 1976
address Longmoor Lane Liverpool

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Erpingham records birth search
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 20:00 BST (UK) »
And all fits nicely with 1911 and 1939 records

Just need OP to come back and confirm which of the two CWW deaths are theirs
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Erpingham records birth search
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 22:58 BST (UK) »
Hi he died 5th oct 1976 in Liverpool he had a brother I think is Albert Henry Whiley we can't work out why he was registered in Norfolk as his dad and brother appear on Northampton records? And no idea of mothers maiden name hence the confusion and not knowing where to start! Thanks again for replies extremely grateful

Rach

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Re: Erpingham records birth search
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 23:05 BST (UK) »
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James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.