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Re: Erpingham records birth search
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 23:15 BST (UK) »
His birth isn't registered in Norfolk
As he was born before his parents married his birth reg would be in his mother's maiden name -which is (we think) "Going"

I posted his most probable birth reg as Charles W Going mar qtr 1908 Northampton

He appears on census as Whiley marries and dies as Whiley

it looks like his mum married as Jane Going (married Joseph Whiley)
Her full name was probably Mary Jane Going but she seemed to used her middle name as a forename

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Re: Erpingham records birth search
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 23:33 BST (UK) »
there were also these births
Frederick J Whiley
mother's maiden name Going
 Jun qtr 1913 Northampton
3b 13

George E Whiley
mother's maiden nae Going
Dec qtr 1914
Northampton 36 125

It alo seems a possibility that Charles and his siblings were orphaned when they were young
there are these death reg's
Joseph Whiley
Sept qtr 1919
age 45
Northampton

Jane Whiley
Dec qtr 1919
age 32
Northampton

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Re: Erpingham records birth search
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 23:56 BST (UK) »
I have found what I believe to be Charles baptism
Parish registers
All Saints Northampton
baptism 23 jun 1908
Charles William
parents Joseph & Jane
surname Going
father's occ Carter
address 12 Parkins Row

as tJane wasn't married when Charles William was born he was baptised in the name of Going- Joseph's surname has been omitted

what is interesting and may be a relative -on the same day at the same church there was a baptism of Frederick Henry
parents George & Annie
surname Going
father's occ Carter
address 11 Parkins Row (next door to Joseph and Jane)

this looks like the baptism of some of the children born fter Joseph and Jane married

Northmpton All Saints

baptised on same day
23 July 1911
Albert Henry
Arthur Ernest
parents Joseph & Jane
surname Whiley
address No 9 Court 7 Bridge St
father's occ labourer

Hope this helps for you to piece it together - forget about the Charles birth reg Erpingham !!

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Re: Erpingham records birth search
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 21 July 16 00:00 BST (UK) »
Suz, I can't thank you enough!! You have been such a help very much appreciated my dad will be happy!

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Re: Erpingham records birth search
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 21 July 16 00:32 BST (UK) »
I have a lot of information on Jane Goings family - George Going was Jane's brother -lots of other similarities -I'll let you digest all and then post more information tomorrow if you would like me to do that

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Re: Erpingham records birth search
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 21 July 16 06:55 BST (UK) »
That would be amazing if you don't mind and you have the time?!

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« Reply #15 on: Thursday 21 July 16 12:25 BST (UK) »
will be back on late tonight

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Re: Erpingham records birth search
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 21 July 16 14:57 BST (UK) »
As Suz is doing Janes Family I will give you some info on Joseph Whiley;


Last Census available Joseph is born c 1877 Northampton.
I havent found him in 1901 yet

1891 Census
Bridge St,
Court 12/House 15
Northampton, Northamptonshre
RG12/1201/138/10
Charles Whiley, 47, Head, Carriage Builder
Ada Whiley, 22, Daug, Unm, Shoe Fitter
Lilly Whiley, 18, Daug, Unm, Shoe Fitter
JOSEPH Whiley, 15, Son, No Work
Rose Whiley, 14, Daug
Lizzie Whiley, 7, Daug
All born Northamptonshire

1881 Census
Charles Whitey, 38, Bootmaker
Julia Whitey, 35, Wife, born Lutterworth, Leicestershire***
Ada Whitey, 11
Lilly Whitey, 8
JOSEPH Whitey, 5***
Rosey Whitey, 2
Ellen Whitey, 15

MARRIAGE;
1 February 1863, All Saints, Northampton
Charles WHILEY, 20, Bachelor, Occp Striker, abode Bridge St, Father JOHN Whiley
Julia GARNETT, 18, Spinster, abode Bridge St, Father LAMBERT Garnett
Fathers Occps seem to be messed up, so one is a Labourer and the other a Bookkeeper
(FreeREG)

1871 is a bit of a weird Census;
Weedon, Northamptonshire
Henry Garnett, 54, Head
Senlia Garnett, 51, Wife
Henry Wyiley, 8, Grandson
William Wyiley, 6, Grandson
Senlia Wyiley, 25, Granddaug, Mar, born Lutterworth, Leicestershire****
Ann Wyiley, 1, Granddaughter

Image is Seulia for Mother/Daug, must be misheard from Julia!
Julia should be down as Daug

1861 we have;
Henry Garnitt, 44
Julia Garnitt, 43
Julia Garnitt, 17, Daug,Unm****

1851 Census
Claybrook, Leicestershire
HO107/2078/116/17

Lambert Garnet, 35, Head, Mar
Julia Garnet, 34, Wife, Mar
Matilda Garnet,16, Daug
Henry Garnet, 13, Son
JULIA Garnet, 7, Daug***
Julia Beaumont, 38, Lodger

Lambert dies as Henry Lambert Garnett 1872

MARRIAGE;
26 May 1834, Lutterworth, Leicester
Lambert GARNET to Julia MUSINE
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1841 Census
Lambert Gavnit, 25, Coal Dealer
Julia Gavnit, 25
Matilda Gavnit, 6
Henry Gavnit, 4
HO107/598/15/Lutterworth

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Re: Erpingham records birth search
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 21 July 16 15:16 BST (UK) »
MARRIAGE;
10 April 1837, St Sepulchre, Northampton, Northamptonshire
John WHILEY Bachelor to Mary IRONS Spinster
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BAPTISM;
John WHILEY, 11 June 1812, All Saints, Northampton (birth 25 April 1812)
Father WILLIAM
Mother SUSANNA
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)