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Re: Berwyn Stores, Llangollen
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 08 March 17 14:52 GMT (UK) »
Welsh Newspapers July 1910 has a "Mr A Avery, 6 Berwyn Street" who can be found on the 1911 Census.
If you can access the 1911 Census, check "List" after clicking on "Related Images" (bottom right of census image screen"
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St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.

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Re: Berwyn Stores, Llangollen
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 08 March 17 15:55 GMT (UK) »
-. Are the Old Bank and Richard's Bank one and the same?

There was a bank on the north side of Regent St/Berwyn Street (old A5)  just before the traffic lights at junction with Castle Street. It was in the junction of road that went up to Fron Bache and the Plas Newydd road*.  I think Berwyn Stores was opposite on the South side, where the arrrow is on the map link that I gave - at the junction of Chapel Street and Berwyn Street/Regent street.

This is from memory of 50+ years ago and also when I last visited (briefly) 9 years ago. I can visualise itstill.

The Berwyn Stores was the ancestor of one of the shops near the bus stop  to Chirk and Glynceiriog.

* Add - the roads on the South side were/are Hill street, Hall Street and Willow Street - see map link
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Re: Berwyn Stores, Llangollen
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 08 March 17 16:07 GMT (UK) »
It is probably worth contacting Llangollen History Society:

http://www.hanes.llangollen.co.uk/
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Re: Berwyn Stores, Llangollen
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 08 March 17 16:17 GMT (UK) »
Here's the junction I was meaning:

https://goo.gl/maps/hWyG2yKBzWr

(hope it works!)

Looking east on A5 (with Chapel street junction on left by the y pillar box)

Added - The Old Bank is the building beside the pillar box if you enlarge  :)

https://goo.gl/maps/73Qirn519As

Think I was mixing up The Old  Bank with The Grapes.

Just been up the hill to my old school -goodness it's changed!
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Re: Berwyn Stores, Llangollen
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 08 March 17 17:19 GMT (UK) »
Just noticed that in Cas's Reply #1, there is mention of Watkin & Williams, as listed building - they are No 4.
 Quite prominent  on the Google Streetview link  :)
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Re: Berwyn Stores, Llangollen
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 08 March 17 18:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi, thanks for the feedback guys. Its hard to tell where Berwyn Street finishes and Regent Street starts? It was probably where its shown on the map but Im not sure about a bank? I'll take a look on Google Streetview.

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Re: Berwyn Stores, Llangollen
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 08 March 17 18:52 GMT (UK) »
HT and I have had a little chat and have determined that the Berwyn Stores (and 4 Berwyn Street) is the building between the current Watkin & Williams and The Old Bank. On the link it's windows are whitewashed over and the name above the front has been painted but Watkin & Williams is quite clearly showing through.

As you can see there were at least 2 floors plus an attic above - quite big enough for family accommodation.

Look at the street view links!
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Re: Berwyn Stores, Llangollen
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 08 March 17 20:50 GMT (UK) »
CADW
http://cadw.gov.wales/docs/cadw/publications/historicenvironment/20163003LlangollenUnderstandingUrbanCharacter2016EN.pdf

Click on and tab down to pages 38 and 39. Page 38 shows the bank and the shop immediately next it is occupied.
Page 39 is a view of that shop from directly in front - described as "4 Berwyn St". These are the empty premises next the bank in the link provided by Gadget. As he has explained you can see Watkin and Williams above the door.
The empty premises, To Let, next to the present Watkin and Williams are No 8.   
 
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.