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Re: William Williams death in Aberllefari Slate Quarry abt. 1895
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 31 July 16 10:01 BST (UK) »
Re the newspaper report in Welsh :

Ebrill 25ain, yn swyddfa'r cofrestrydd Dolgellau, yn mhresenoldeb Mr Thomas Parry, cofrestrydd, Mr Thomas Hughes, Greenfield Ter race, Corris, a Mrs Mary Elizabeth Williams, Brynllwyd, Corris



Translates as :
April 25th, at the Registry Office, Dolgellau, in the presence of Mr Thomas Parry, Registrar.............
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Re: William Williams death in Aberllefari Slate Quarry abt. 1895
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 31 July 16 10:04 BST (UK) »
There is a possible match between this

http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3860378/3860383/34/

and the death of a William Williams aged 20 in Dolgelly district Sept Qtr 1894.

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Interesting that it says that 'he leaves a widow and 2 children' .

We can't give info from the 1911 but this might show  in the fertility info for Elizabeth. It might be worth looking at Ian.
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Re: William Williams death in Aberllefari Slate Quarry abt. 1895
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 31 July 16 11:02 BST (UK) »
Thanks Roger and Gadget.
Looks as if Brynwllyd Farm is a consistent link and dates all make sense.
Help me with the Welsh - could Mr John Williams of 7 Marine Terrace have been the father?
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Re: William Williams death in Aberllefari Slate Quarry abt. 1895
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 31 July 16 11:06 BST (UK) »
Have found her in the 1911
She had 5 children 3 living, 2 dead. The three living would have been WLW and the two Hughes half brothers
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Re: William Williams death in Aberllefari Slate Quarry abt. 1895
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 31 July 16 11:23 BST (UK) »
Believe Mary Lloyd and William Williams 1894 Dolgelly 11b 630 must be the marriage
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Re: William Williams death in Aberllefari Slate Quarry abt. 1895
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 31 July 16 11:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Ian

It appears from the 1891 that the Brynllwyd   farm was occupied by the Lloyds - Mary E's parents were William and Grace.  She also had a brother David. The newspapers show a David Lloyd, Brynllwyd, Corris,  winning various prizes at agricultural shows - it might be him or someone else.

I think the John Williams, mentioned in the newspaper, was as a separate entry as there was a semi-colon between suggesting a list - I'll go look again

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« Reply #15 on: Sunday 31 July 16 11:38 BST (UK) »
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Re: William Williams death in Aberllefari Slate Quarry abt. 1895
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 31 July 16 11:48 BST (UK) »
The North Wales BMD shows the 1894 Dolgellau marriage (definitely Mary Lloyd to William Williams) as a civil marriage, so no parish record, sadly. Dolgellau ref is DOL/12/E117

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Re: William Williams death in Aberllefari Slate Quarry abt. 1895
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 31 July 16 22:30 BST (UK) »
Cant find a logical reason to decide which is William Williams family.
Most likely seems to be parents David 41 and mary 41 in 1881 with William 8 born Dolgelly. That would make him born abt 1873 which is close to being 20 at death in 1894

Roger - you mention RG12/4641/85/1 - am not sure how to identify which that is?
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