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Huson Marriage in Dorset
« on: Tuesday 02 August 16 01:10 BST (UK) »
I recently found the following marriage online:

13 March 1716 Witham Friary
Narcissus Huson of St Mary Magdalene, Fifehead, Dorsett
Elizabeth Young of Buckhorn-Western in the same county

by Mr Richard Huson, Curate of Comberley & Dunkerton

Can anyone tell me where the parishes of Witham Friary, Buckhorn-Western and Comberley & Dunkerton are in relation to Fifehead Magdalene?

Also I know that my ancestor Narcissus Huson [or Hewson] was born in Fifehead Magdalene in 1686 and that his father was the Rev. Richard Huson. Could these be the same people as mentioned above?

I'll post more details in the next day or two.

Thoughts welcomed.....

Matt

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Re: Huson Marriage in Dorset
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 02 August 16 06:44 BST (UK) »
I use GenUKI pages for this type of information ;D

http://ukga.org/genuki/DOR/BuckhornWeston/index.html
BUCKHORN-WESTON, a parish, in the union of WINCANTON, hundred of REDLANE, Shaston division of DORSET, 8 miles (W. by N.) from Shaftesbury

http://ukga.org/genuki/DOR/FifeheadMagdalen/index.html
Fifehead Magdalen, a parish in Dorsetshire on the river Stour, 4 miles from Gillingham station on the L. & S.W.R.,. and 6 W by S of Shaftesbury.


I can't find any parish (anywhere) called Comberley & Dunkerton, but maybe it's Dunkerton?
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/Dunkerton/
DUNKERTON, a parish in the hundred of Wellow, in the county of Somerset, 4 miles N.E. of Radstock, and 5 S.W. of Bath

Certainly, Witham Friary is in Somerset:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/WithamFriary/
WITHAM FRIARY, a parish in the E. division of the hundred of Frome, county Somerset, 5½ miles S.W. of Frome, its post town, 4 E. of Axbridge, and 14 from Wells.
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Re: Huson Marriage in Dorset
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 02 August 16 06:57 BST (UK) »
Within the Church of England, there is this:

Camerton St Peters.
The parish is part of the benefice of Timsbury with Priston, Camerton and Dunkerton within the deanery of Midsomer Norton.


So:
TIMSBURY, a parish in the hundred of Chew, county Somerset, 8 miles S.W. of Bath station and its post town, and 7 S. of Keynsham railway station. The living is a rectory* in the diocese of Bath and Wells, value £389, in the patronage of Balliol College, Oxford.

PRISTON, a parish in the hundred of Keynsham, county Somerset, 5 miles S.W. of Bath, its post town.

CAMERTON, a parish in the hundred of Wellow, in the county of Somerset, 6 miles to the S.W. of Bath, its post town.
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Re: Huson Marriage in Dorset
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02 August 16 16:04 BST (UK) »
I use GenUKI pages for this type of information ;D

http://ukga.org/genuki/DOR/BuckhornWeston/index.html
BUCKHORN-WESTON, a parish, in the union of WINCANTON, hundred of REDLANE, Shaston division of DORSET, 8 miles (W. by N.) from Shaftesbury

http://ukga.org/genuki/DOR/FifeheadMagdalen/index.html
Fifehead Magdalen, a parish in Dorsetshire on the river Stour, 4 miles from Gillingham station on the L. & S.W.R.,. and 6 W by S of Shaftesbury.


I can't find any parish (anywhere) called Comberley & Dunkerton, but maybe it's Dunkerton?
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/Dunkerton/
DUNKERTON, a parish in the hundred of Wellow, in the county of Somerset, 4 miles N.E. of Radstock, and 5 S.W. of Bath

Certainly, Witham Friary is in Somerset:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/WithamFriary/
WITHAM FRIARY, a parish in the E. division of the hundred of Frome, county Somerset, 5½ miles S.W. of Frome, its post town, 4 E. of Axbridge, and 14 from Wells.

Hi there

Thanks for both your replies. It looks like there must be a connection as I'm pretty sure Richard Huson had links with Wincanton too. I will check when I'm home but what you've said does seem to fit with what I know. I've got the records of Richard Huson's ordination at home and I'm sure Wincanton is mentioned in there too.

I forgot about GenUK I'm afraid. Thanks for checking these for me :-)

Matt


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Re: Huson Marriage in Dorset
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 02 August 16 18:40 BST (UK) »
I don't know if any of this info. relates to your Rev Richard Huson

The 1716 marriage is on FreeREG
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01i49/
Church St Mary the Virgin
Married by Mr Richard HUSON Curate of Combhay and Dunkerton

National Archives has this http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3099718
Registration Sub-District 1 Twerton. Parish: Dunkerton. Parish: Combhay.
Parish: Wellow....

Then there's this http://www.rootschat.com/links/01i4a/  Claverton

On the stones
Martha eldest dau of Richard Hufson rector, by Mary his first wife.
She died age 23 was buried Holy Thursday 1741

Martha Huson Bp on FreeREG http://www.freereg.org.uk/
2 Aug 1717 Combe Hay Richd Huson clerk, mother Mary
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/CombeHay

On a brass plate on the floor
Rev. Richard Hufon, rector Of this place departed this life 25th May 1749 age 65

FreeREG has following St Mary Claverton Somerset http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/Claverton/StMary

marriage 24 Nov 1720 Richard Huson, Rector to Mary Nichols
Bpt. Mary Huson 1721 of Richard & Mary
burial Mary 1729/30, wife of Richard Huson, Rector
burial Richard Huson 26 May 1749 Clerk & Rector of this Parish Claverton

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/Claverton
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Re: Huson Marriage in Dorset
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 02 August 16 19:38 BST (UK) »
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Re: Huson Marriage in Dorset
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 03 August 16 00:01 BST (UK) »
I don't know if any of this info. relates to your Rev Richard Huson

The 1716 marriage is on FreeREG
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01i49/
Church St Mary the Virgin
Married by Mr Richard HUSON Curate of Combhay and Dunkerton

National Archives has this http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3099718
Registration Sub-District 1 Twerton. Parish: Dunkerton. Parish: Combhay.
Parish: Wellow....

Then there's this http://www.rootschat.com/links/01i4a/  Claverton

On the stones
Martha eldest dau of Richard Hufson rector, by Mary his first wife.
She died age 23 was buried Holy Thursday 1741

Martha Huson Bp on FreeREG http://www.freereg.org.uk/
2 Aug 1717 Combe Hay Richd Huson clerk, mother Mary
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/CombeHay

On a brass plate on the floor
Rev. Richard Hufon, rector Of this place departed this life 25th May 1749 age 65

FreeREG has following St Mary Claverton Somerset http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/Claverton/StMary

marriage 24 Nov 1720 Richard Huson, Rector to Mary Nichols
Bpt. Mary Huson 1721 of Richard & Mary
burial Mary 1729/30, wife of Richard Huson, Rector
burial Richard Huson 26 May 1749 Clerk & Rector of this Parish Claverton

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/Claverton

Hi there

Thanks for those. I didn't have these previously and looking at it there may well be a connection to my Huson family. I'll dig out my notes and go through it.

Many thanks again

Matthew

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Re: Huson Marriage in Dorset
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 09 August 16 23:11 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all those bits of info on the Husons. I've done some more digging and although I haven't found Martha Huson's birth yet I do have a couple more puzzles. I know that her father Narcissus Huson had a brother called Richard and I have established that he was rector of Claverton and died there in 1749. He was born in Fifehead Magdalen in 1684 (the son of Rev.Richard Huson, vicar of the parish, and his wife Martha [nee Joyce]).

On 4 Feb 1716/17 he married [as Richard Huson of Comb Hay] Mary Flower of Comb Hay at either Comb Hay or Dunkerton [source: Marriage Allegation Bonds of the Bishop of Bath and Wells From Their Commencement To The Year 1755]. They had one daughter named Martha who was born in Comb Hay in 1717 and baptised on 2 August 1717. Mary herself died in October 1717 and was buried on 17 October 1717. Martha herself died in on Rogation Sunday in 1741 and was buried in Claverton on Holy Thursday 1741. The following comes from The History and Antiquities of Somerset Vol.1 (p149)

Martha eldest dau of Richard Hufson rector, by Mary his first wife.
She died age 23 was buried Holy Thursday 1741

According to the parish registers she was buried on 7 May 1741 [see below]

http://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/55107fb5e937907e5f33487f?search_id=57aa4085f4040b4ae5000e91

This makes it clear that Richard was married twice as Martha was born to his 'first wife'. See the following link

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=EosgAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA149&lpg=PA149&dq=rev%20richard%20huson&source=bl&ots=D9tkFuVvx3&sig=e_parnY1qg6T0frAYdpGJulvGGk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiBn_uon6POAhUMbRQKHXUdAdUQ6AEILTAB#v=onepage&q=rev%20richard%20huson&f=false

As mentioned, Mary died was buried in October 1717 and Richard married secondly [this time as 'Richard Huson, Rector of Claverton'] Mary Nichols of Claverton on 24 November 1720 [in Claverton I presume] [same source]. From his second marriage Richard had a daughter named Mary who was born in in 1721 and baptised on 21 November 1721. Mary herself [wife of Richard] died in February 1729/30 and was buried on 17 February 1729/30 in Claverton [see link]

Both of these are recorded on the freereg.org website

As previously mentioned Narcissus Huson married Elizabeth Young in Witham Friary on 13 March 1716. Narcissus is described as 'of St Mary Magdalen, Fifehead, Dorsett' which is correct. The information I have comes from a transcription which states that the marriage was conducted by 'Mr Richard Huson, Curate of Comberly and Dunkerton'. It seems clear to me that 'Comberly' is the same place as Combhay which is clearly the same place as 'Comb Hay' mentioned in the above records.

What puzzles me is that I have found three different dates for the death of Richard.

According to the parish registers of Claverton he died on 26 May 1749 however the Bishop's Transcripts say he died on 14 October 1749. Both of these are on the freereg website. However the History and Antiquities of Somerset, Vol.I gives a completely different date. This is from p149 of the book:

On a brass plate on the floor
Rev. Richard Hufon, rector Of this place departed this life 25th May 1749 age 65

This can be seen on google books by searching for 'Richard Huson' and 'Claverton' in Google and selecting books.

So which date is correct? All say he died in 1749 but he appears to have died three times, in May on 25 or 26 according to the PR and the Antiquities, and then again in October according to the BT. Personally I am more inclined to go with the May date but why would the BT date be so different?

The main mystery I have though is that I still can't find the baptism for my Martha who would have been his niece. This is what I know about her at the moment though:

She married Richard Ryall of Soth Cadbury on 24 July 1742 in Fifehead Magdalen.

The main evidence I have for her parentage and date of birth comes from two sources. Her father died in 1769 and left no will, however I have a copy of the administration that was granted. The grant of anministration was granted to his daughter who is described in it as

"Martha wife of Richard Ryall of Fifehead Magdalen"

According to the parish registers she died on 10 November 1798 aged 81 [again this can be found on freereg.org.uk]


This makes her born c1717 but the only Martha I have found born between 1716-1718 was Richard Huson's daughter [she would be the niece of Narcissus Huson] and she died in 1741. I am currently trying to see if I can find a will or anything else for her father [Richard Huson] or anyone else in the family that might provide more clues.  I'll add more info later but it would be good if anyone could help me find any records for the following:

1) The birth/baptism of Elizabeth Young probably between 1670 and 1700
2) The birth/baptism of Martha Joyce probably between 1650 and 1670 [possibly in Kingston Magna, Dorset]

Many thanks for the help so far. I'll post more info later.

Matt

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Re: Huson Marriage in Dorset
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 09 August 16 23:13 BST (UK) »
Further to the above I also know that Richard Huson, Narcissus Huson, and their younger brother Nicholas Huson were the children of Rev. Richard Huson (who was Vicar of Fifehead Magdalen from 1677-1726) and Martha Joyce. I know that their father attended Oxford and matriculated with a B.A from Exeter College on 9 July 1668 aged 15. He is described as the 'son of Richard, of Henstridge' and if he was 15 in 1668 then he was probably born about 1653. I have found children born to Richard Huson [and Mary his wife] in Henstridge in the 1650s and 1660s but I haven't found any sign of Richard born in 1653 yet. If anyone can locate his birth around 1653ish it would also be useful.

Many Thanks

Matt